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Looking at the Lakers Bench

Tomorrow should be the game of the year (so far), and as such, it deserves a slightly more in depth preview than normal. Tomorrow morning, Kurt from Forum Blue and Gold will help break down the Lakers' strong side zone defense. Below, Adam from the great new Lakers blog Lake Show Life talks a little about what makes the Lakers' bench special this season.

Everyone rambles on and on about 2008 NBA MVP Kobe Bryant, his new partner in grind Pau Gasol and the return of "Diaper" Drew Bynum, but what really gives the Lakers the chance to be special -- and I'm talking pushing 70 wins special here, folks -- is the Lakers' second unit. This unit basically consists of four players:

  • Lamar Odom - Sixth-man extraordinaire. How many other NBA teams have an All-Star coming off of their bench? What I like abut having him be the main man for the second unit is that it allows either he or Kobe to facilitate the offense for basically the entire 48 minutes. He's a Jack of all trades, master of none, which works wonderfully off the bench because the Purple and Gold don't need him to be a master of anything in that role. Well, except making things happen, which he does more often than not. You also have to love his attitude. How many young All-Stars would accept coming off the bench in a contract year without griping?
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    • Jordan Farmar - The ex-UCLA point guard is only 22, and he's really starting to come into his own. He's always been athletic, but now he's also shooting, passing and defending pretty well. We're all witnessing the actualization of ability with Jordan, and there's a certain swagger he now has because of that.
    • Trevor Ariza - The Venezuelan Vendetta may not always show up in the stat sheet, but his activity and energy have made a huge difference so far this young season. For example, he led the Lake Show with a +34 plus-minus rating Sunday against the Rockets. He's probably as active, athletic and bouncy as any young player in the league. Kind of a poor man's Gerald Wallace at this point.
    • Sasha Vujacic - The Machine plays at a furious pace, and when he starts off hot you better watch out. He's off to a slow start so far, but he looked better against the Rockets. He's labeled a catch-and-shoot guy, but his overall game continues to improve.
    • The Fast Four (seriously, these guys are like a blur out there) will likely finish the season with a better plus-minus then the Lakers' starting five, and that's saying something. After all, there's no team that can match up with that kind of firepower off the bench, and that's before I've even mentioned guys like Luke Walton and a rejuvenated Chris Mihm. Even newcomer Josh Powell can ball. Keep an eye on the Lakers' second unit Wednesday night. If they end up beating the Hornets in New Orleans, it will likely be because of bench play.

    The way I see it, these should be the bench matchups: Mike James vs. Jordan Farmar, Rasual Butler vs. Sasha Vujacic, Julian Wright vs. Trevor Ariza, James Posey vs. Lamar Odom, Hilton Armstrong vs. Bynum/Gasol. For starters, I list Armstrong against Bynum/Gasol because from what I've seen of the Lakers this year, those two don't generally play on the floor together. They rotate in and out for each other, so Hilton will surely have to guard one of the two.

    We really, really, really, really need Julian to play, and more importantly, the Julian of last year to play. Trevor Ariza has had tremendous energy off the bench, as Adam notes, and Wright needs to match that. I hope this is the game Byron Scott finally unleashes Wright.

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    great blog

    Hello,

    I am a lakers fan, but check in here anytime we play you guys to get another perspective. Great blog!

    Just wanted to give you an idea of what lakers have been doing thus far with the bynum and pau situation. Right now, Phil starts them both, and then half way through the first or so he will bring lamar in for either AB, or PG, depending on matchups. From that point on he seems to always have two of those three (Pau, Andrew, and Lamar) on the court at any given time. Unless of course we are winning by a lot, and then it is Chris Mihn and Powell.

    by ecs on Nov 12, 2008 12:43 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

    Thanks ecs

    I think that’s a pretty brilliant strategy. I’m kind of concerned with how well Posey can guard Odom. From what I can tell Odom might be way too long for Posey to guard effectively… but I dunno. Did Posey ever guard Odom in the Finals last year? I can’t recall.

    by atthehive on Nov 12, 2008 1:12 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

    I know the game has passed at this stage …. but I thought Posey did a very good job on Lamar Odom defensively in the Finals last season. One of the keys to Boston winning. Those small ball comebacks with Posey at PF against Lamar.

    by NBR on Nov 15, 2008 9:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

    Thanks for doing swapping posts

    Thanks again, ATH.

    I wanted to follow this and that first comment up by saying a couple things. At the end of the game tonight Phil was staying with Pau and going offense/defense with Drew (O) and L.O. (D). ECS is right, and so far Phil has done a masterful job of rotating those three.

    I have to comment on Trevor Ariza as well. Tonight he had 13 points and six boards with three steals and two rejections. That doesn’t even tell the story of his night. Dude was all over the place.

    I’ll have my post-game thoughts up in a bit, so if you want check those out.

    Thanks again and good luck!

    by lakeshowlife on Nov 12, 2008 1:02 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

    Good stuff, I'll check out your postgame as soon as it's up

    I watched most of the second half (when the Lakers surged ahead) and Ariza was pretty crazy. That block on Stackhouse (?) in the corner was wild- he literally floated in the air for a second after jumping.

    by atthehive on Nov 12, 2008 1:13 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

    odom and posey

    I think, although I have blocked a good portion of that series out of my memory, that b/c we were down a true center (Pau played center but is much more comfortable at PF) that Lamar was defended pretty effectively by KG, and obviously he lost some of his “length” advantage there.

    Perkins was on Gasol and just out muscled him. I am sure that due to the triangle and the fluidity of exchanging positions (lamar played both PF and SF with regularity) that posey did guard him at points. I don’t remember though how effective that was.

    Personally I think the biggest thing you will see is that it is almost like we have two teams this year. Our first unit which gets into the triangle offense and works the ball into the post, and then this second unit that you touched on here. They are a fast, long, athletic group, and the pace changes dramatically when they come in. I think, at least initially, that it throws a lot of teams off.

    by ecs on Nov 12, 2008 1:25 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

    Yeah

    The more I think about it, a lot of past championship teams had pretty nice change of pace guys coming off the bench. The Spurs with Speedy Claxton, Speedy Jackson, etc comes to mind, as does the 3 point oriented Heat bench vs. the really non 3-point shooting Heat starters.

    by atthehive on Nov 12, 2008 1:46 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

    one last note...

    Lamar is definitely longer than Posey, but he has a strong preference for driving to one side (he is left handed, so i think it’s the right…) and he is MUCH more effective when driving that direction. If posey can shade Lamar to the other side I think it will negate a bit of the length he gives up bc lamar will often times drive and kick or miss lay ups when driving to the left.

    by ecs on Nov 12, 2008 1:29 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

    Hmm

    I know Ginobili is left handed, and I always see him driving to the left hand side. So maybe it’s different from what Odom does. I think Posey’s biggest difficulty would be guarding guys off the dribble, driving. So Lamar might be able to exploit that a little bit.

    by atthehive on Nov 12, 2008 1:48 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

    Posey on Lamar

    Lakers fan here from FB&G.

    Posey actually played Odom a lot during the Finals. When the Celtics went small (Rondo, Allen, Pierce, Posey, KG), Posey often found himself matched up with Odom. In fact, when Perkins got hurt in one of the games (game 2, i think) it was Posey that came in and helped eliminate the Laker’s lead and ultimately pull ahead.

    Posey does a good job on most players like Odom who are PF’s that excel as perimeter players that can drive and shoot (ala Dirk) rather than the PF’s that play primarily inside. So, in this regard, I think Posey can do a good job on Odom. The difference now that Posey is with the Hornets is that Posey won’t have KG and/or Perk to play back line defense or the overall team defense concepts that the Celtics employed to limit Odom’s effectiveness. Boston did a great job and shutting down any penetration as a team rather than just shutting it down with one defender. When a player like Odom (or Kobe, or anyone really) got an advantage on penetration on the initial defender, there would be plenty of help to surround and corral the penetrator. Will the Hornets be able to do the same thing behind Posey? That will be a major key in not only shutting down Odom (and Farmar) on the 2nd unit, but also Kobe (and to a much lesser extent Fisher) in the starting 5.

    BTW, great blog.

    by desus32 on Nov 12, 2008 1:03 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

    Thanks

    One of the things Posey’s done well so far is drawing charges. I hope that carries over into tonight. One of the lineups the Hornets might struggle with is Kobe + Lamar at the same time, down the stretch. Generally, Posey has been guarding the best player on the floor late in the 4th quarter. So if Lamar is in there with him, that means David West would have to guard him.

    by atthehive on Nov 12, 2008 1:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

    I also think that West is going to have his hands full with Gasol. From what I’ve seen of the Hornets in the past, they really don’t like to double team and prefer to stay home on the perimeter in order to contest shots and not let the wing players get easy looks off ball rotations against a scrambling defense. Do you think that West will be able to stay with Gasol on the block? Also, do you see Chandler playing well against Bynum? In last years matchups, Bynum did well against the Hornets on the glass and took advantage of Chandler helping in the lane by receiving lobs and interior passes off penetration. I know that Tyson has not been 100% healthy, will this be a factor in your eyes?

    by desus32 on Nov 12, 2008 2:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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