Game 10: Hive Live
Sacramento 108 (5-8) | New Orleans 96 (5-5)
Ugly. That's a pretty good word for it.
Tonight the Kevin Martin-less Kings outplayed a healthy Hornets squad, who wasted a 20 PT, 15 AST, 4 STL performance from Chris Paul. Without Kevin Martin. Kevin Martin did not play. Oof.
Actually, outplayed isn't really the best word for it. The team stats were almost identical in every category with one solitary exception: 3 pointers. New Orleans dropped a horrific 2 out of 13 from beyond the arc, while Sacramento made a merely average 7 of 19. But last night, average was enough. And that's really the difference when it comes down to it.
Ok, so that's not really the whole story. In all honesty, we could have won this game. Keep in mind that we did outscore them in the first half without a single trey. So, a victory was imminent despite the poor percentage from deep if only a few other things had happened:
A. David West had pulled down more than 1 (ONE!) rebound and
B. John Salmons hadn't beat Rasual Butler off the dribble on every possession, ending the game with 29 PTs after going 13 of 18 from the field.
Seriously, Byron? You're not going to try a different defensive scheme when a mediocre 2 drops 30 points on you? Were you really that mad at Morris that he truly deserved 0 (ZERO!) minutes?
It's doubly frustrating that we lost this game considering that we could have jumped Houston in the divisional standings after they dropped a game without the services of any of their big 3.
Regardless, I'm not pressing the panic button yet. Remember that this Hornets squad dropped a game to Sacramento at the end of last season in a crucial quest to land atop the Western Conference standings. We missed that 1 seed by a single game.

It's still very early in a long season of 82 games. And though it does seem a little late to still be finding our sea legs, dropping to .500 is not devastating after only 10 games (though my buddy Curry pointed out that we haven't been at or below .500 since before last season).
We have a back-to-back against the Seattle Sloppy Seconds this weekend. If we can't close out those 2 games, then I'll cry "PANIC"... but not a second sooner.
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Couple of observations before I leave you:
- Devin Brown played pretty well, chiming in with 13 PTs, 2 ASTs, 1 STL, and 3 REB (all offensive, actually). He seems serviceable for the time being over Mike "I'm not a pure point guard, I'm a scoring point guard" James. But we may need someone who can at least sort of run an offense behind CP. Ball handling is nice and all, but let's get some other people involved.
- Pretty cool sequence happened in the third that brought the score back to a tie. I'll just quote the game thread to make things easier: "Paul steal, Butler dunk, West steal, West dunk, Chandler block, Peja three. Right back in it." Ah, if only.
- At one point in the third, CP got doubled up near the Sacramento bench. But "doubled up" actually doesn't do the play justice, as Reggie Theus (the Sacramento coach) was on the sideline and practically yelling in CP's face. So, to recap, Chris was cut off from the court by 2 players and 1 coach. How is this not some kind of foul against the King's bench?
- I repeatedly wrote in my notebook that Armstrong doesn't know how to rebound. His 4 rebounds on the night came mostly away from the paint (or after Sacramento had begun transitioning). Boxing out is not his strong suit. Doesn't even own a suit like that as far as I can tell.
- It got all "Revenge of Bobby Jackson" out there towards the end of the game. Despite being quiet all night, B. Jax sunk 5 points on two impossible shots late in fourth that, even though we were all in denial, were pretty much the nail(s) in the coffin.
- In the continuing tradition of doing mindless games and contests during every timeout in an effort to keep the fans' attention, the Hornets have implemented a new contest: 77 seconds with 7up. Basically, at the start of the third quarter, they keep track of the amount of points scored for 77 seconds which then turns into prizes of 7up for one lucky fan (provided the team scores). It's dumb, but that's not the point. The point is that when the 77 second game was played last night, the Hornets put up a total of 2 (TWO!) points. After this happened, our incredibly annoying in-game promotion announcer lady declared that 2 points in 77 seconds was "not too bad." Hey Brittney, guess what? That pace comes to slightly less than 75 points a game. And, in the words of Sir Charles, "that's TORRRABLLLE."
- I've written in the past about my befuddlement with fans who wear any old jersey to Hornets games based, presumably, on the fact that sporting events require fans to wear jerseys of any kind. As such, there is rarely a shortage of Deuce McCallister, Drew Brees, or Reggie Bush jerseys littering the stands during home games. Hell, even LSU jerseys have been known to make appearances. It's a little strange, but at least they're behind their city, right? And opposing fans are no exception either; at last year's Pistons game, I saw a guy in a Red Wings jersey. Honest. Why am I telling you this? Because last night I saw a guy wearing a... wait for it... Washington Redskins jersey... Jason Campbell's to be precise. Now, google told me that DC is roughly 2,700 miles from Sacramento and 1,000 miles from New Orleans, so I ask you, the fans of the wide world of sports... WTF?!
Composed to: Joy Division's Unknown Pleasures
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Mo Pete
I checked out the game recap after I posted a mini-rant over at HometownHornets, and — for what it’s worth — Peterson was actually out after having fluid drained from his knee. He’s also expected to miss the next two games. Still, that doesn’t excuse Byron’s decision to let Salmons light up Sual Bop for 29 pts.
Ugh, I feel sick. If the Hornets can’t beat up Oklahoma’s WNBA franchise this weekend, we’ve got problems.
by Man in the Arena on
Nov 20, 2008 9:32 AM CST
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Bummer
They didn’t list him as injured before the game (of course, what does the stupid jumbotron know anyway). Bit of a bummer. We actually need Mo for his defense, especially since we learned that Rasual is not starter material.
Thanks for the heads up.
http://www.hometownhornets.blogspot.com/
by hldomingue on
Nov 20, 2008 9:36 AM CST
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I wouldn't say John Salmons...
…is mediocre. One of the most underrated players in the league.
Averaging 18 points, 3.9 assist, 1 steal on 50 percent shooting is NOT mediocre. Also he did a nice job defensively against Peja when he was on him.
by Apoet on
Nov 20, 2008 10:53 AM CST
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Here's the thing...
Salmons is having good year… this year. He spent his first five seasons well below the league average in PER. His per 36 minute scoring averages for those years? A slow increase of 9.5 to 11 points. Now points are typically overvalued as a stat, but it’s still a primary objective for guard/forward combo like Salmons.
Last season, his minutes jumped from 27 to 31 and, while his production did increase, he still only managed a slightly below average 14.5 PER. As far as shooting guards go, Salmons has been pretty mediocre.
This year is an obvious exception to that trend, as he is playing much more efficiently than he ever has (PER of 18 through 13 games). Not to mention that he is playing almost 40 minutes a game and sharing shots with Kevin Martin. Perhaps mediocre wasn’t the best descriptor choice for Salmons based on his performance so far this season, but keep in mind we have six seasons of proof before this year that suggest he is merely average.
As such, I’m not sure that underrated is an appropriate title to don just yet, as he did have a hot start last year only to cool down as the season wore on. If he can maintain this level of play for most of the season, then I’ll be on board.
http://www.hometownhornets.blogspot.com/
by hldomingue on
Nov 20, 2008 2:17 PM CST
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Good post
I never really used to think of Salmons as mediocre, but now I kind of do. He’s a pretty average player I guess. Makes it all the worse that he lights us up of all people. I still don’t get why Byron didn’t just put Posey on him as soon as he got going. Especially since Pose was having an off day on the offensive side, I’m sure he would have loved to help the team on defense. So much of Byron’s coaching made no sense last night. Sigh
by atthehive on
Nov 20, 2008 2:27 PM CST
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About Salmons last year...
He certainly did have a great start also.
But now there’s something else you’re forgetting. Artest was still a King.
When Artest was hurt or just didn’t play Salmons always played great as a starter.
I think that’s the type of player Salmons is, he’s not a good bench player. As soon as Artest came back he went from averaging like 18 points to like 14 or so.
He isn’t a great player of the bench because his offense takes a bit to roll, he didn’t do damage until like the 3rd quarter against the Hornets I think.
Also, that’s why the trade for Artest happened. Because everyone saw how great he was starting instead of Artest. I mean the level of production hasn’t dropped off. Salmons feels more comfortable knowing no one will take his position anymore.
I would not say mediocre, I mean I get to see Salmons play alot, and he’s the Kings most solid Defender. Even when Martin was in the lineup he still managed to score and make life easier for Martin.
I guess it is going to be a wait see attitude. I wouldn’t be surprised though if he gets MIP nods by the end of the year.
by Apoet on
Nov 20, 2008 3:52 PM CST
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Fair point.
I agree with you on the starter vs. bench role aspect of his play. He certainly does tend to thrive as a starter (and the numbers support that notion). He was not even remotely mediocre last nightl; however, he still doesn’t have a solid season under his belt. Which means, in a way, he’s still untested. I’m not saying he can’t maintain this level of production, it’s just hard to know if he will based on the numbers. But you know what, numbers don’t = people. You could be absolutely right about how good he is/will be without Artest in front of him. And if he does sustain these numbers, MIP wouldn’t shock me in the least.
One more thing, having been at the game last night, I can assure you he was lighting up our defense all night and not just in the second half. Granted, most of his points came during the final 24 minutes of play (I think he had something like 11 at the half), but he only missed 5 times out of 18 on the night. I’d say he was warmed up when he walked into the arena.
http://www.hometownhornets.blogspot.com/
by hldomingue on
Nov 20, 2008 4:20 PM CST
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I get what your saying.
Especially about playing like this the whole season. It will depend on how he continues to produce before anyone does give him any credit. Which is fair.
As for the Hornets, I honestly think they need a better bench. That seems the be the one area that they can really improve. I was also confused to how long Paul was sitting in the Bench. He sat for way too much in the second half I think.
by Apoet on
Nov 20, 2008 5:05 PM CST
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Preaching to the choir...
It is beyond frustrating to me that Byron will let Devin Brown or Mike James ruin our leads while Paul sits idly on the bench. I don’t know if we’re saving his minutes for later, but if we are, that’s stupid. Paul is young and he thrived late in the season as well as the playoffs racking up at least 40 minutes a night. Why are we content to hold him to 37 or so a game? Especially when the score gets tight.
My frustration is further compounded by the fact that our bench is sub-par and can do next to nothing for sustained periods of time — with the exception of Posey. But here’s the thing about Posey: we spent so much money on him that the severe lack of cap space remaining forced us to sign Sean “Kiwi” Marks to shore up our front court. Oof.
We need to figure this stuff out or it’s going to be a long season. Nothing’s worse than when your team underperforms all season… you can believe me when I say that because I’m also a Saints fan.
http://www.hometownhornets.blogspot.com/
by hldomingue on
Nov 20, 2008 6:57 PM CST
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