Game 32: Hive Five
Blurgh. Not again.
Really has nothing to do with the game, but I love this picture. Ricky, Chris, and Deron.
This was one of those games you could see coming from a mile away. Not that any of us Hornets fans predicted it- we were caught up in the big win over L.A. and the recent stretch of good play. But combine a road back-to-back with the end of a 4 game road trip with our hideous bench and this isn't anything extraordinary. It really was a classic case of the starters needing some assistance from the bench. They played heavy minutes last night in a pretty emotionally charged game, while the bench got to sit much of it out. Asked to provide a helping hand, the second unit fell flat on its face.
There is one positive tonight- the game isn't necessarily an indicator of gloom and doom in the playoffs. The back-to-back nature of the last two games really exacerbated our bench issues. The game was decided in the opening minutes of the second quarter, when the majority of our offense came in the form of Melvin Ely bricking free throws. In the playoffs, we'll at least be able to run rested starters out there.
The most obvious flaw was the effort on the boards. At the end of the first quarter, the rebound rate was 5% us, 50% them. At halftime, it was 4% us, 40% them. The garbage time minutes of the fourth quarter diluted the true amount they out-worked us by. A lot of the blame has to be placed on Tyson Chandler. He played a mere 30 minutes last night due to foul trouble. And he responds tonight with four rebounds? Against a front-court severely lacking in depth and height? Unacceptable, even on the back end of a 2 game set. No way fatigue can explain that away.
Chris Paul outplayed Deron Williams as expected, but who cares? D-Will is now 9-2 against the Hornets. We were able to explain away the first few losses by pointing to our own various injuries. But they just smacked us down by 20+ without (arguably) their best player. The thing is, this loss really differs from their previous blowouts of us. Utah normally shut down Paul consistently by trapping him and taking away shooters. If you look up his previous numbers against UTA, they're awful. Tonight, we were in a great position to win the game. We played a respectable first quarter and just needed the bench to hold it together for 4-5 minutes before the starters checked back in.
The +/- will say the starters actually ended up giving away most of those points in the second quarter. In actuality, the bench set up all that momentum for Utah's offense before leaving- allowing shooters to get to their spots unimpeded and dribble penetration. When the starters did check back in, they were confronted with a flurry of transition buckets.
Bullet time:
- Culprits #1 and #2 off the bench were A. Daniels and J. Posey. Daniels literally lost the ball every time he touched it. Between them, they couldn't buy a bucket. Between them, they almost had as many turnovers as the entire Jazz team. I'm not going to malign them too much, given what they've produced so far. But they were truly awful in every sense of the word.
- I suppose I have to mention the factors at least once. Look at them. I don't think we've been this thoroughly outplayed since our 18-64 season. I mean that totally seriously. In our other blowouts, we've at least managed to do something okay. Today, we got smashed on the boards, outshot, had more turnovers, fouled like maniacs... not a good night to be a Hornet fan.
- Uhhh. I'm really out of bullets. West looked crazy tired out there, Peja was ice cold... not really that much else to say. It feels like the first quarter wasn't even part of the same game.
Oh okay, one more thing: Brevin Knight had as many offensive rebounds as the entire Hornets team. Chew on that one. Good night everyone.
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I wonder what happened to Tyson's rebounding skills
by Junsier on Jan 7, 2009 10:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone see the one where D West just stood there?
Sigh.
I bet the team feels like I feel after staying up till 2 AM last night and working all day. But I still went, dammit. I feel like someone didn’t live up to their end of the bargain. Oh, Hornets. You make me sad.
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by ticktock6 on Jan 7, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That was really weird.
I am a Jazz fan, but I like the Hornets too. They are probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite West team. They looked tired for sure. By the second quarter. And I thought West was going to have a big game after the first few minutes, cuz he was doing what he wanted to. But I think AK gave him some troubles and he was just too tired after last night. Next time, we can all expect a much better game. Take care guys.
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by clarkpojo on Jan 7, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks clark
You guys are going to be scary good once Carlos Boozer comes back. Millsap, a guy that just smoked us for 27 and 14, off the bench? That is seriously unfair.
by atthehive on Jan 7, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
all goes back to one of your earlier topics about a player like richard hendrix
we could use a brusing power forward on the team to backup west. we lack rebounds off the bench, and sometimes just period.
by Ace Boogie on Jan 7, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
It doesn’t seem like the Hornets are even aware the D-League exists. Why have Julian Wright come to games and not even suit up? I’d like if he could actually get some time, even if it were the D-League.
by atthehive on Jan 7, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, Boozer most likely isn't staying.
All he seems to care about is the money instead of winning, he could have played with LBJ. Utah still has Stockton-Malone Part Deux in Williams-Millsap.
by Fundefined on Jan 7, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Boozer opts out after sitting so much
His expected return is right around the trade deadline, so UTA might also have some problems getting fair value for him.
Overall, it’s scary how similar Boozer at age 23 was to Millsap right now (23). At this point, Boozer is the better player. Though if I had to choose between them, I’d probably go with Paul for his age, and for his added defense over Boozer. But if Booze doesn’t opt out, UTA really doesn’t have that choice. Instead, it’d be a choice between letting Millsap walk and paying the luxury tax, something their owner is staunchly against. So we’ll see. It’s a big crossroads for them, whichever way it ends up.
by atthehive on Jan 7, 2009 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gilbert opted out
so I think Boozer will as well. In addition, Carlos’s injury isn’t anything scary + he knows his time in Utah is over. Someone will sign him to a multi-year deal and he’ll get paid more than the 12something million he was going to get next year.
I agree Utah won’t get fair value for him so I think a trade is out.
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by RedHopeful on Jan 8, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jazz at home are the Hornets worst nightmare
The Hornets (except CP3) hate to be poked, pushed, slapped and bumped. The refs allow Jazz home games to include all of these for the entire game. When the play the same anywhere else the other team shoots 44 free throws instead. We don’t have metally tough players (except CP3 and Posey) that can take the punishment, and only CP3 can handle the ball well enough to avoid turnovers under that pressure.
Also, somehow the Jazz have installed an adjustable hoop that shrinks for the opposing team. It malfunctioned in the first quarter, but they fixed it at the break. After that we missed alley-oops, dunks, layups, jumpers, hooks, threes, and frees.
We did get out-hustled in every facet of the game once the gloves came off. Even when we did hustle it didn’t work out. I loved when MoPete used his face to “foul” Andrei on his arm.
I think when we play them again we need to go with a bigger line-up and play that feet-moving in-your-face defense to prevent them from getting up that head of steam cruising into the lane. A body on Milsap would be nice….
by NOEngineer on Jan 8, 2009 12:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
HA! The face foul...
I wanted to have a conniption over how bad that call was, but then I remembered we were down by 20+ so I went back to sleep hoping I’d wake up to find that we hadn’t played past the first quarter yet. Didn’t work.
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by hldomingue on Jan 8, 2009 9:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bench Bench !! We really need to do something about the bench.
This is the most concernable thing that we hate to see- we can’t get support from the bench. But it just happend, after the big win last night.
Our starters must have been extremely exhausted. Sadly, we have no backup. If we have to win every game like last night (it was a good win though) whenever we face a tough team, it does no good for Hornets and our All-Star players.
Seeing the first quarter, I thought it would be a good start. But they(Jazz) did play better than us tonight. We need stronger backup to maintain consistency.
Hope the bench issue will be solved soon and be no more a concern for playoffs.
by phoebe c. on Jan 8, 2009 1:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why can't we rebound?
Can somebody with lots of time on their hands and a DVR figure out why Hilton can’t rebound and nobody’s box-outs are working? Last year we were a good rebounding team. Same players with minor injuries at most. Teams seem to be getting a lot of long offensive rebounds when our guys have everyone boxed out, and more rebounds over our heads/backs as well. When we are on offense we seem to turn our backs on the ball assuming it is going in. Somebody besides Tyson needs to be looking for the offensive boards, maybe even in or near the colorfully painted area of the floor. Let’s try 2 or 3 guys all the way back on D and 2 or 3 focused on offensive boards instead of 5 guys halfway back on D.
by NOEngineer on Jan 8, 2009 5:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This last game I chalk it up 99% to fatigue
That seems like a lot… but we’re actually a decent rebounding team, at least defensively (top 5). Offensively is where we struggle, and we have to point at Tyson for that. The rest of this team wasn’t particularly good at offensive boards last year either- Tyson single handedly carried us.
by atthehive on Jan 9, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah..
I was kinda expecting a loss actually. For all the reasons stated above, the last game of a roadtrip the 2nd of a back to back, and because, well… I think that Deron owns Chris in head to head. Now wait before I hear all the objections give me a chance to explain. First 9-2 thats the overall record in Deron’s favor. And by owned I mean when they play against each other Chris is the one that plays more below his average. Let me just quickly trot out some numbers. The first numbers are the head to head averages, and the second are their career averages.
Chris
14.9pts / 8.8ast / 2.8stl / 2.45 tov
18.5pts / 9.7ast / 2.4stl / 2.5 tov
Deron
18.1pts / 8.2ast / .81stl / 3.5 tov
15.3pts / 8.3ast / 1.0stl / 2.8 tov
by SamGoody on Jan 9, 2009 3:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Jazz have owned the Hornets in the last 11 games.
But comparing even CP and D-Will head to head is silly. As is well chronicled, Melo has “owned” Lebron head to head. Not to take away from Melo’s skills, but not many people outside of Denver think he’s any better than Lebron. Same with CP and D-Will. Who cares what happens head to head, other than people desperate to prove Deron is better. He’s not. End of story.
But it’s a team sport, and the Jazz have given the Hornets problems. So be it.
by m-W on Jan 9, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're definitely right
None of us can reasonably say CP has played D-Will well head to head. Though one caveat is that he’s certainly improved. In his last 4 games, I think he’s now had 2 reasonable ones (after getting thoroughly owned in most of the first 7). So there’s that.
by atthehive on Jan 9, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying..
one is better than the other. I was just reacting to the comment made by atthehive, where he said as expected Chris outplayed Deron
by SamGoody on Jan 9, 2009 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, you're right
I always expect Chris to outplay Deron, but it usually doesn’t work out hahah
by atthehive on Jan 9, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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