Game 13: Hornets vs. Suns
by Rohan on Nov 19, 2009 6:44 PM CST
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Bad D..offense looking fluid
We’re lucky the Suns have missed some easy shots…
I now know what you mean by D. Brown's shot selection...
Ahh..the pain of finally getting a good stream…
Im pleased
but not please with bad passes by Bobby Brown and Posey looking old right now
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Posey looks really old
couldn’t even get in front of Barbosa (after he missed a shot) to get a rebound
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Keep it going young gun!
Good to see the Hornets have made a distinct attempt to get Emeka going….
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Next question
Will he crack starting lineup? He’s already the team’s 6th man. Personally I think it’s a good spot for him. Do we want Posey/Peja/Brown coming off the bench? He’s young and seems a better fit for the underwhelming 2nd unit. He SHOULD however see minutes during crunch time in the 4th.
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Our perimeter defence is...
Urghh…if it wasn’t for the Suns missing all these open looks, we would be so dead.
i blame the oldies
playing SF. Posey and Peja look sooooo slow.
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Bower
has done a reasonable job so far, I really can’t complain. Let’s see if he can win this one.
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where do you guys get the online feed from?
HELP DESPERATE! :(
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
http://www.atdhe.net/5549/watch-phoenix-suns-vs-new-orleans-hornets
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Dudley stroking it
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As fluid as we look...
I can’t believe we’re only ahead by one
how can i watch the game if its not on national television?
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
will those sites give me games not on national television?
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Nov 19, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
does it give all hornets games to you?
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Nov 19, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
http://www.atdhe.net
usually has every game on the nightly docket – whether it’s on national tv or not.
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thank you so much.
couldnt order league pass anymore. :(
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by chandlerfan6 on Nov 19, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
Sure
some games/nights can lag quite a bit. :(
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damn. but its better than nothing? :(
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by chandlerfan6 on Nov 19, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
Perfect pickup for the Suns
Channing Frye
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Devin leading a break is always scary
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it’s been so easy to hate devin for his absolutely putrid production, but since he’s been had to mostly by circumstance (and byron scott’s nearly on par horrid coaching/sub-selections) play a slightly more prominent role & they’ve started interviewing him and giving him more press, i was stunned that he seems like such a nice guy! i thought he would be stand-off’ish & AI-like because of his style of play, but he seems genuinely legit, at least he’s an asset (or seems to be) in terms of chemistry
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Nov 19, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
3 fest tonight!
Each team with 5
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Ack
6-4 New Orleans actually…
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Excellent Half
Didn’t expect Bower to get our boys to play this well with CP3 out…
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Ugh
I wanted David involved inQ3 I didn’t mean with fouls.
by m-W on Nov 19, 2009 8:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Ack
not the 3rd quarter doldrums!
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Shoot the ball Darren!
Gets into the lane and doesn’t even look for his shot?
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For once, Reggie is right
fun game to watch
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I like Devin on Nash
His size is really giving Steve some trouble.
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Good to see Peja
getting a little more consistent
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WTF
Devin, u of all people with an off balanced shot!?
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Im very pleased
with Devin in the lineup. Can’t wait for Chris to get back though. I still think we can salvage the season if we can get everyone healthy.
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Thanks for holding up the thread guys
When I watch games on TV, it’s harder for me to be on threads.
Glad to see we’ve played this so close thus far… even with Dudley knocking down ridiculous threes.
Jared D
working on his game (especially shot) during off season is really evident. It’s not surprising to see how well the Suns are playing when their pieces fit so well for what they’re doing on the court. Speaks volumes at how well our team is doing tonight.
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West
1-9 and our team is up? Who needs All-stars? :)
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Has Okafor defended Frye all night?
Or has he defended Stoudemire?
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Thanks
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
I've watched a lot of Suns over the years
and Collison staying with/in front of Barbosa is impressive
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Nice moves rook
And Dwest with the jumper
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Shooters bounce
Way to go Peja!
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Would like to see Thornton in for Devin
about now
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Peja from WAAAAAAAAAAAY downtown
BAAAAAAAAAANG!
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And now Collison!?!
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Best I've felt about the Hornets all season
Feels good.
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This is where not having CP3
HURTS
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aww that was a BS back court call
it bounced off the defender!
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YES
rookie struggling but with 2 big shots down the stretch
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I used to think Gil McGregor was an awful analyst
That was until I listened to Reggie Miller. He’s actually worse.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Horrid
The worst was a preseason game – actually the Suns v. Warriors in the outdoor game. For over 1 quarter, Miller was talking about baseball players being girls (when Rockies canceled game due to weather).
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That is horrid
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
That oughta be game....
What a huge win this is.
I actually missed most of it, was watching a friend in a play, but I was ecstatic to see this score when I got home.
LETS GOOOO HORNETS!!!
COLLISON MY BOY MAN.
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it is premature, but i like the way bower's team looks
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Nov 19, 2009 9:44 PM CST reply actions
Same here
If he can continue to light the fire under these guys then we have a chance. These guys will only get better as they start to mesh.
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Take note Byron Scott
Consider playing your rookies if you land another gig.
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by RedHopeful on Nov 19, 2009 9:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
In fairness to Byron (not sticking up for him yay or nay here)
A lot of coaches won’t play rookies.
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Agreed
but with the start our wings had this year + lack of overall team energy, he should have considered it earlier. Might have saved his job.
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Bower has nothing to lose here RH
I doubt he has any interest in a long term gig as coach.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
His job
altogether (including GM). No? He has to prove his choices, both draft and FA’s, were at least decent.
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When is Bower's contract up?
And who would Shinn get to replace Bower? It’s not exactly like George Shinn is every GM’s dream to work for.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
You positive pookey?
Only 30 GM spots out there. I’d imagine Shinn would have a line out the door of possible replacements in a NY minute
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I'm a Kings fan & I have no stake in this
But, let me also point this out too. Shinn is a notorious cheap budgeter, and there are prospective GM candidates who would not be thrilled to work with an owner who doesn’t exactly spend the bank where & how he could.
The Hornets have a small staff budget to work with, and that’s because Shinn doesn’t want to spend that money (or can’t—makes no difference to me). Now, you can argue this any way you want, but the Hornets are not a glamorous job and it would be difficult to put a contending team with Chris Paul as the centerpiece in less than 2 years. (And Chris Paul is a top 5 player.) The NBA has a ton of teams throughout history that essentially had 1 good year and then weren’t the same afterward (for a variety of reason’s naturally).
So, while you think that Shinn would have a line of replacements, also consider this. The assistant GM’s in Portland and Houston (Tom Penn and Sam Hinkie respectively) turned down the Minnesota job because Glen Taylor essentially wouldn’t put the money in that both guys felt it would take to put a competitive franchise in the game so to speak.
Honestly, Taylor has a lot more money and has always been willing to spend more than Shinn ever has. There will not be a line of guys that will take the Hornets anywhere better than what Bower has currently done.
That’s my opinion though.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Shinn's "cheapness" is overstated...
I’ll borrow some facts from a post over at Hornets247…
Byron Scott had a top 5 salary among NBA coaches. The Hornets payroll is 12th in the NBA right now and Shinn is paying the luxury tax.
I know lots of people dislike Shinn, and I understand that – I’m not a fan either, but the Hornets have been a consistently competitive franchise aside from the fist few expansion years and down year here and there that all teams have. Scratch the first three years of a the team’s existence (teams ALWAYS suck in that period), and you have a franchise with a winning percentage of .531.
I think Shinn's a crappy owner for a lot of reason's
If you don’t have less than stellar teams in those first 4 years, you probably don’t get Larry Johnson or Alonzo Mourning at that time. The NBA draft has generally been about the worst teams getting the top talent through the draft. It’s not that easy to separate it. You can choose to do so; it’s not a valid argument from where I stand. Even then, the winning % for the Hornets has been around 500 which is not easy for any franchise to do. So I see your point.
That being said, I think the best chance of the Hornets getting someone is like Mike Dunleavy Sr who wanted to get back into the game. Is that what you think will really improve the Hornets if Bower gets fired?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
oh well
I can’t complain with Bower doing a nice job after this win!
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What I got from speaking to people in the organization
Though, this is pure speculation on my part, is that Bower really wants the head coaching job. I get the feeling that if he does keep the gig, they might hire another full time GM.
Yep
Their play thus far has made Byron look silly for trying to bring Buckets and Dimes along so, so slowly.
Awesome
Let’s hope it carries over. Should push CP3 to get back asap!
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I think CP3
is on the Bower boat now. He doesn’t seem to worried much about Scott anymore now that his team is doing much better without him being the coach. I think when CP3 comes back we are back in the playoff race. All we need is one more wing that can score and I think we can make a push with this team.
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2 things that are clearly evident in the early Bower era:
(1) The best players will play, regardless of if they’re rookies
(2) The offense is creative, and players actually move off the ball to get open.
Great to see
Might that have anything to do with Floyd?
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Oh, hes in the laegue two and Jayson Thomson and that Boggins dude on Milwokee, and Occur for the Jizz. Its a talented laegue.--Kfan in Korea
Agreed
The energy and movement have done a 180. CP3 mentioned how they look to push it so much more. Can’t wait to see what he does in this offense.
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Collison
is really doing well filling in for Chris. I can’t wait to see the 2 of them in the back court together and Collison starting to get his stroke down. I no longer want Thornton to start, at least not yet because Brown has done a good job on defense and can score a little too, so until Li’l Buckets can get the defense down, I think his 6th man role is perfect.
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Devin Brown is still Devin Brown, but he may not be not last year's Devin Brown
I think sometimes we forget that last year’s Devin Brown was Brown at his absolute worst, he looked out of shape, his jumpshot was nowhere to be found, etc.
He seems a bit revitalized this year. Granted, he’s still not a legit starting 2, not even close… but if he does continue to get playing time then maybe he can be the 13-15 PER guy he was in SA and in his earlier stint in New Orleans.
Hey here's how I look at it
Last year the Nuggets were starting Dahntay Jones at SG. He wasn’t much of a scorer at all, mainly a defensive specialist. I remember him giving Chris Paul fits last year in the playoffs with scrappy play. The reason I use him as an example is that if you can play some defense and be able to score consistently, then you are good enough to start in this league and help your team get to the playoffs. So if you look at it like that, Devin Brown is a legitimate starter on this team, and he plays his role very well.
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God I hate Dahntay Jones
But I see what you meant.
I guess what I meant by “legit starting 2” is an atleast average or slightly above average player. Brown is below average any way you slice at, but if he can just be “slightly below average” – play some D, make some shots, not make horrible decisions on a consistent basis, as opposed to “abysmal” – then that’s good and he can help the team.
I'm with LocoSaint on this one.
People panned Mo two years ago, when he was clearly an important piece of the puzzle. Every team has a 5th best starter, and they just have to know how to contribute. If Devin can keep playing this way he will definitely be that guy, and then some.
Just put up
a post on my blog about the past couple of games. You guys should swing by.
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DUBS
Glad to see 2 wins in a row. Nice for the NOLA Bees to get rolling……..CP3 needs to get back on the court man……well……..we are winning games?
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