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Game 54: Hive Five

Blurgh. Whatever. Hard to feel bad when you have zero expectations.

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The fact that we're a playoff team and had zero expectations going into a game says a lot. The Utah Jazz just destroy us. Forget fatigue for a second, forget who was playing and who wasn't. The Jazz simply have our number. It's a combination of good individual play, good defense, good coaching... good everything really. I wouldn't be surprised if they swept a playoff series against us.

Star-divide

Pace

Eff

eFG

FT/FG

OREB%

TOr

New Orleans

87.0

101.1

50.0%

25.7

14.7

17.2

Utah

117.2

54.3%

17.3

19.5

9.2

The stats are above. We lost this game due to turnovers, poor transition defense, and not closing out shooters (all of which you could blame on fatigue theoretically). But those are faults specific to this game. We've lost 7 out of 8 to Utah, most in spectacular fashion. So instead of looking at this game specifically, I think I'll go in a different direction: why do the Utah Jazz eat us alive?

I posted a picture of Paul and Williams in the game thread. If we've learned one thing from these matchups, it's that New Orleans-Utah is all about the players not wearing #8 and #3. Williams' supporting cast easily outclasses Paul's. It's not close really.

Kyle Korver is essentially Peja Stojakovic, minus the huge salary. As good as Rasual Butler has been this year, he's essentially been exactly equivalent to C.J. Miles... who's a backup to Ronnie Brewer. And Brewer is significantly better than Butler. I'd give David West a very slight edge over Okur, but the gap is really, really small. Both teams are missing valuable bigs (Chandler defensively, Boozer offensively).

Then you get to the bench, assuming health. Paul Millsap is lightyears, billions and trillions of lightyears ahead of Hilton Armstrong. They shouldn't be mentioned in the same 600 page novel. For all the hype James Posey gets, Andrei Kirilenko is, at the very worst, his equal on defense. He dwarfs Posey in terms of offensive contributions. Brevin Knight and Ronnie Price aren't too much of a step down from Antonio Daniels. Matt Harpring is Ryan Bowen, if Bowen was league average at basketball. And we haven't even gotten to Kosta Koufos (who is currently showing more promise than Julian) or the fact that Utah has two spare seven footers lying around on the bench.

At this point in the careers of Paul and Williams, it's very clear- observationally and statistically- who the better player is. You won't find anyone outside of SLC arguing against #3. But focusing on this matchup obscures what actually happens when the Utah Jazz play the New Orleans Hornets. All this is to say nothing of the Jerry Sloan vs. Byron Scott matchup (I don't think I need to explain where I stand on this).

We can and should chalk this one up to fatigue, injury, whatever. But at the end of the day, there's a major underlying disparity in terms of talent and coaching. As we look ahead to an easier schedule and how a Lakers-Hornets matchup might play out, it would be foolish to lose sight of that gap. 

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Man we suck.

Why can’t we win like last year?….This team seems to be so bad. We can string 5 wins together. Never mind I am over this team, really am. Just start the playoffs so we can get this season done with.

New Orleans Hornets: The most inconsistent team in the NBA.

by Grayson on Feb 21, 2009 11:32 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Tough battle...

Even without the fatigue issues, these guys kill us every time. I’m terrified of drawing them in the post season.

http://www.hometownhornets.blogspot.com/

by hldomingue on Feb 22, 2009 12:06 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Looking at the schedule..

We ought to be able to rattle off 5 wins in a row from here on out… hell, if the team really plays hard every night I could see themt taking the next 10 in a row.

by Caleb462 on Feb 22, 2009 12:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Actually, we don't....

If you want the season to be over sooner, stop logging on to sports sites and avoid the arena. Presto!

The Hornets, ven with substantial injuries, are in the top third of the league. I expect that our upcoming soft schedule will prove that. If we have CP3 and David west and still lose half of our remaining games, THEN we suck! If we win 70% of them like I expect and Chandler gets back somewhat healthy, then we will scare every team except Utah.

Against Utah, we need to disrupt their rhythm be fouling more often prior to the shot and playing defense like we did in the third and fourth quarters. Step in front of and hold cutters, primarily. Since it’s Utah, we’ll probably only get called for about half, but they won’t be able to eat us up quite as effectively. Then we need to rebound and hope they don’t hit 60% from three point range. I’d like to see Ryan Bowen on Kirlenko to keep a body on him. Sounds crazy, I know, but I think it would work. When he is in, the other team gets less lay-ups.

by NOEngineer on Feb 22, 2009 12:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Amen

I understand Grayson’s frustration completely… but in no way am I “over” the team or ready for the season to end. I’m still excited and I’ll continue to be until the season actually does end.

by Caleb462 on Feb 22, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah good point.

Maybe I was very rash in what I said. However I stand by what I said. It just seems like this team when losing, lose bad. And when winning, win by eithier shooting or CP/DWest having big nights. We live by the three and die by the three.

I want to see us running again, I want to see CP running. These things do happen, I’m not denying they do but they dont happen enough. There is no energy unless things are going right. I want to see someone turn a 10 point deficit into a 20 point lead.

Anyway what I am saying is that really we are a predictable team—>Pick and Roll/Or three point shot (and sometimes fast break..sometimes.) I want to see a variety of movement off the ball, because it seems we are too stagnent.

So maybe when I was saying that I am over the team i really meant I want them to be better…hahaha

New Orleans Hornets: The most inconsistent team in the NBA.

by Grayson on Feb 23, 2009 5:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, like TT6 said to me the other day...

…at least those Hornets fans here in Nola have Mardi Gras to distract us and help us pretend these last two games didn’t happen! As for the Jazz, I think we need to watch some playoff tape of them against the Rockets and Lakers, and whoever’s given them trouble in the last few years, and try to pick up some pointers there.

Otherwise, beat the Kings! (We can really worry if we can’t beat the Sacramento Firesale.)

by m-W on Feb 23, 2009 12:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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