Game 71: Hornets @ Knicks Preview/Thread
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 4:20 PM CDT
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For starters, does this picture make anyone else sad? Feels like just last week that Allan Houston and Dell Curry were out on the courts. I feel old.
Anyway, if you haven't heard yet, the Ceiling Fan is out 1 to 2 weeks. Judging from the "stabilizing boot," it would appear that the 2 week side is more likely. In all probability, the 1-2 week assessment means he's done for the regular season. How effective he would be in a postseason series is anybody's guess. As for Peja... still no word on him. The last story indicated that he had shooting pain in his legs, stemming from his back. Doesn't take a doctor to realize something sounds very, very wrong there.
What does it all mean? Well, we can all but kiss homecourt advantage good bye. Between our horrific performances against other contenders, Houston and S.A. playing very good basketball, and our injuries, we're probably staring at a 6 or 7 seed. The first round matchup could still end up being anyone... San Antonio, Houston, Denver, Utah, Portland... even L.A. if we slump some more.
So it's a somber state of affairs the Hornets find themselves in, on the way to New York. The Knicks are coming off an embarassing loss, where an Al Harrington hanging-on-the-rim penalty cost them a probable win. Still, if Quentin Richardson and Wilson Chandler get hot against James Posey's "defense," things could become very rough.
I'll be watching this one solely to see Chris Paul do his thing. Hey, looks like it's 2005 all over again.
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Yippe!
I got tickets tonight and am hoping for a good old fashioned blowout. If you see a crazy girl jumping up and yelling ‘CP3’ every time he hits a basket – that would be me.
by janepriceestrada on Mar 27, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The bench:
Jumper that barely grazes rim, ball thrown out of bounds, airball. Typical.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JAMES POSEY stepping up just like I said he would.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 7:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The whole bench is playing so well
The hook from Hilton was reaaally nice.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bench play good
with cp3 and west sitting most of the second, the bench keeping as in the game woohoo
by nikkoewan on Mar 27, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Hilton turned an ankle...
…we should fire our trainer.
by m-W on Mar 27, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fire the ref!!
d’antoni shouted at the ref so the ref wanted to pay the no call by placing his foot on where hilton’s step. damn..
we may have inherited the C virus(clipper virus).
maybe this is good for next year. juju developing along with hilton.
by nikkoewan on Mar 27, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As usual
The Hornets manage to end the quarter as horrifically as possible. Great 2nd otherwise…
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris is going to have to be aggressive.
He’s being too hesitant to shoot that 3. He has to shoot it.
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 7:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Have the tides turned
the starters the last two games aren’t playing so well and the bench has been.
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SCARY SCARY MOMENT.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Disgusting.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So have we officially graduated
from the 2nd quarter collapse to the 3rd quarter collapse?
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Every single guy
watching the ball on the fast break instead of defending. Sigh.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe this team
I just don’t see the fire. Not even in CP. Have they just stopped mentally
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah
I think CP will eventually take over at some point.
I hope.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know
I just don’t know anymore. They just scored 14 points in the thirds. This is so hard to watch. This team is not this bad. My goodness.
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time for CP3 to just take over and drive every single play.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The play seems to be to go to West and
hope for the best. wrong strategy IMO
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SA and LA beating up on weak opponents
And we’re down by 10 to the Knicks.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Both are fully healthy too.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Bynum and Ginobili are both out
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manu's back and Bynum is not coming back this year.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bynum will be back this year
… just maybe next season.
by Gils_Keloids on Mar 28, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaaand we give up another quarter ending shot
Nicely coached Byron Scott. Great to see we’re putting so much effort into something that burns us every game.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WE GAVE UP 35 POINTS THAT QUARTER! WTF!
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't blame BS. This is on the players.
they just are not in this game and its inexcusable.
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I seriously feel sick right now
No we you can blame NOT DRAWING ONE!!!! FOUL in a quarter on not having Chandler/Peja.
This team is playing like garbage.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
put the bench in
the starters aren’t doin a thing
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they aren't helping each other
they are leaving each other out to dry. and its in their body language.
I cannot believe this. This is the knicks team that gave up 140 points to the damn clippers.
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats what I was just thinking
The Clippers… the clippers just beat this team, and dropped 140 on them.
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh, are you serious?
That’s incredible. Makes this so much more painful.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Chris Paul and David wEst on the floor
The best play we can come up with is MoPete shooting a guarded wing three with 17 on the shot clock.
We really don’t deserve to win tonight.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CP still looks a little off
Same as last game… I wonder if fatigue (and perhaps frustration) is finally setting in?
I don’t know… but as ath just said, the offense we are running is inexplicable.
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 8:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thsi is all i can summize.
he is not even being as aggressive. All the beatings and bumping because they have horrid spacing is catching up.
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is. Didn't you see him walk away? The perfect way to rub it in is to lead this team to a W.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate Robinson looks like he's gonna cry.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Paul took that three just to show up Nate Robinson. And missed horrible.
Come on Chris Paul. seriously.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The shot selection for this team
has been horrible.
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CP3 better take over quickly.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if he does
It wont matter if the Hornets dont play defense.
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But that one disappoints me in particular. Getting into a one-upping match against a random bench player? I expect more from CP.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a sign to me that their play is getting to him
They are not giong to do anything with the roster they have and is pisses him off.
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Such an idiot. I can't believe this
THROWING THE BALL AT THE REF? Are you kidding me??
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, did that just happen
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posey gets thrown out
WOW!!!!!
They are so mentally weak.
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
UN-FREAKING-BELIEVABLE!
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He threw the ball at the ref.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to one tech shots
two techs ejection?
by m-W on Mar 27, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you throw a ball at a ref or at the stands
It’s automatic ejection.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He threw it pretty hard
Definite ejection worthy
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What the heck
West just randomly hit LEe on the back b/c he was angry.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't even watch this.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Man everytime I renew my hope in the team...
And force myself to believe that its all about injuries, a game like this comes along..
All the promise this season once held… it just keeps getting sucked away.
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
When/If Chandler/Peja come back, something happens. But I’m not holding my breath.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
That chance is still there… and thats really the only hope left.
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fact is, no Hilton tonight in second half
Coincidence? I don’t think so. They got all their points penetrating.
by m-W on Mar 27, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it his ankle?
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
Did anyone see him come back out after he went to the locker room?
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could have sworn he was replaced by Marks but I think he did start the second half.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was more because of his pathetic defense on the Duhon-Lee pick'n'roll.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
Either way, those lefty hooks were sooo sweet. Loved them.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should add
I am finally aboard the Hilton Wagon after many years of Hilton bashing. mW, you are a prophet.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His offensive game has become pretty nice, and his rebounding seems to be slowly improving
Its too bad the Hornets dont possess some sort of advanced alien technology that could merge the offensive skillset of Hilton with the defensive skills of Chandler.
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, sub them in and out at the half court line
And hope nobody notices.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
Totally forgot aobut that. Hilton was playing huge on both ends tonight.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad when TT6's Hotness bracket is the best thing going in Hornets news.
And I’m a straight man. Depressing.
by m-W on Mar 27, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a coincidence
That you mention it.
http://hornetshype.com/wp/2009/03/27/first-annual-nba-hot-baller-tournament-round-1-div-3/
http://hornetshype.com
by ticktock6 on Mar 27, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is really wrong with this team.
Really what is it.
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Higher turnover rate, lower defensive rebounding, lower floor percentages I’d say are the three biggest.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
basically
the team has regressed. Injuries are a factor but the way they have declined is shocking.
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah nailed it
Chandler’s regressed, DX has regressed… even though Butler has stepped up, he’s basically turned into Mo of last year. Not much of a net gain. Other than that, JuJu has been worse (or at least last time I checked the stats), Daniels and Pargo cancel each other more or less… and yeah…
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The lone bright spot in all of this
Is that JuJu has been playing well again lately.
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it mostly is injuries, to an extent
But unlike other teams they’ve shown an inability to cope with injuries. Partly its depth issues, we don’t have the players to properly cope… but theres also been a good deal of underachieving going on – nights like tonight are a perfect example.
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES.
That. I keep getting so mad looking at other injured teams overcoming, while we fail because of things like lack of execution.
It doesn’t take a basketball scholar to see the Knicks made an adjustment at the half and went to the basket, dumping it to David Lee every time. In the 1st half they were hanging out on the perimeter. The point is even the KNICKS can adjust and we can’t? BS.
No, seriously. BS. Byron? Hello? Alive?
http://hornetshype.com
by ticktock6 on Mar 27, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We hardly ever turned the ball over last year
Chris is pretty guilty himself. He hasn’t looked great this week.
http://hornetshype.com
by ticktock6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got stat cursed
By getting the WC player of the week award.
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol, doesn't he have like 10 of those this year
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, yeah something like that
Can we trade them in for victories?
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We officially have a worse record than last year.
Devin Brown is a basketball God!
by chandlerfan6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Unbelievable
The hornets got swept by the Bulls and the Knicks in 2008-2009
Wow
by RonD on Mar 27, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just said that
Actually, showing my lack of faith, I said it with about 5:00 to go in the 4th.
http://hornetshype.com
by ticktock6 on Mar 27, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
These Hornets haven't given us any reason to have faith beyond 5:00 to go in the 4th...
When they are down in the fourth they tend to lose.
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just keep waiting for them to get it together
And be the team from last year, but they aren’t. Here’s an idea. How about this year we ACTUALLY DRAFT? Fresh blood and energy.
http://hornetshype.com
by ticktock6 on Mar 27, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I've been feeling that same way all season
“Well, they lost tonight, but its going to all come together soon.”
I do believe I’ve had that thought about… well 27 times now at the very least. Multiply that a few times
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really want the playoffs to get here
Because right now watching the Hornets is not really fun anymore…
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In fact...
I’m halway convinced that the most exciting scenario would be one in which the Hornets fall to the 8 seed, but have Chandler and Peja back, and meet the Lakers in the first round and take them to 7 games.
by Caleb462 on Mar 27, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could not agree more.
This is a perfect idea.
by atthehive on Mar 27, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aghhh!
The only Hornets game I will see live all year. Boo. They looked totally unfocused. Offense and defense were all over the place. And 4 techs and an ejection in one game – thats sloppy play on both sides.
by janepriceestrada on Mar 27, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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