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Hornets Trade Rasual Butler to the Clippers

The announcement hasn't been made yet, but sources say Rasual Butler will soon be on his way to the LAC. The return is a future second round draft pick, though no year has yet been specified. The Hornets did trade away their 2010 second round pick in the Marcus Thornton deal, so that may indeed be the return.

I don't think this deal should elicit too much surprise. The Hornets entered the summer and 2009-2010, seeking to move at least a couple of the following five: Tyson Chandler, Peja Stojakovic, Rasual Butler, Antonio Daniels, and Morris Peterson. Chandler has now been traded, and moving Stojakovic is virtually impossible, as is moving Morris Peterson. I anticipated Bower trading Daniels and Butler in a package (~9 million in expirings) to maximize return, but this alternative was predictable.

The timing probably played a huge role in preventing the pair from being moved together. The Hornets ostensibly must wait at least a month or two to confirm Darren Collison's abilities at the NBA level. Daniels remains vital insurance as Chris Paul's backup until then. Rasual Butler, on the other hand, was immediately expendable because Morris Peterson performed at a very similar level for an entire year and knows the system. Staying on the subject of MoPete... while the majority of media outlets are reporting this as "Hornets dump starter," it is surely a calculated gamble due to Mo's presence.

Of course, that's not to say Butler is value-less. The Clippers are getting a good role player, one that truly reinvented himself this past season. We did an analysis of his value in March, coming to this conclusion: "Rasual Butler is by no means a "great" NBA shooting guard. In fact, virtually all measures indicate that he's in the bottom 50% of starting SG's. But relative to his specific role, he's the second most efficient SG in the NBA behind Utah's Ronnie Brewer." Butler meshed perfectly with the Hornets because of his willingness to do exactly what the team needed- space the floor, shoot threes, and play man defense on some of the superior offensive talents of the league. He essentially out-Mo-Pete'd the 2008 MoPete, something very few of us expected. As much as we've bemoaned the lack of a creative wing option, Butler did provide great value. It remains to be seen whether the LAC will install him in a similar role, but if they do, this could be a solid trade for them.

That this move was financially motivated goes without saying. Even if Mo was already being moved back into a starting role, the Hornets could easily have used the depth Sool brings. But it wasn't to be. As Hornets247 has already astutely noted, the deal saves George Shinn around 7.9 million dollars (3.94 million salary plus the dollar for dollar luxury tax).

Some quick math, just so you can see it visually.

Hornets' Total Payroll, Pre-Butler Trade: 77.662 Million
Luxury Tax Threshold: 69.92 Million
Hornets' Total Payroll, Post-Butler Trade: 73.717 Million
Hornets Exceed the Luxury By: 3.797 Million
Antonio Daniels Makes: 6.60 Million

So the writing is definitely on the wall for AD. I know many have suspected Hilton's on the way out. But to me, moving Hilton makes little sense. He's set to earn 2.8 million this year, not enough to get us under the luxury. By keeping him on the roster, the Hornets don't need to go out and spend more for another big. We will probably see Hilton for one final year.

Anyways, farewell to Sool. He had a year to remember, and gave us at least two moments we will never forget.

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Sad news, but a move that isn’t a big surprise. Good luck to Sool as a Clipper.

MoPete, time to step up.

optimism ftw

by Cablinasian on Aug 12, 2009 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

I’m actually intrigued by the Clips this year… On any other team, Griffin/Kaman up top with Camby plus a healthy Davis/Gordon in back and some scorers in Davis, Butler, Thornton would be a guaranteed fun watch, but with MDSr you never know.

by Rohan on Aug 12, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

The Clippers should be considered a darkhorse team. They’ve got depth at every position, young budding talent with lots of upside, and a former top five point guard who has the ability to get back to that level again. Throw in their solid veteran presence and I wouldn’t be surprised to see this team rise as high as the fifth or sixth seed in the West depending on injuries and such. Sool will help them out on defense seeing as how Thornton is a matador at best. He’s also perfect for helping to space the floor. What a terrific pickup for the Clips.

by Dodgerblue15 on Aug 12, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they had any kind of run-n-gun coach that team would be fascinating to watch… from a talent standpoint, they have more than the We Believe Warriors did, arguably… can you imagine Nelly coaching that team? 82 games of must watch basketball.

optimism ftw

by Cablinasian on Aug 14, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

shit the hornets are gonna suck now rasual is too good to be traded for a second round pick and MoPete sucks

by jamesyyyboyyy on Aug 12, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

But was he too good to be traded for the pick and lots of saved money?

Easier for you to say that than the man paying the bills.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Butler had more value than that

he certainly seemed like a ferocious defender and a quality person

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by Honka Playboy on Aug 12, 2009 6:34 PM CDT reply actions  

As the article stated, he is really just a role player.

Due to MoPete really struggling and CP3 feeding him, Rasual had a sort of inflated year IMO. Good for him but he really doesn’t have that much value. Wingmen are a dime a dozen and when the Hornets can save almost 8 million, it’s worth it no matter what the return.

It would really be nice if either Thorton and/or Wright could take advantage of the available minutes.

Btw, to all, remember when Scott was toying around with the idea of starting Wright and having Peja come off the bench? Think that’s dead now since they want at least 1 very good outside shooter next to CP3 (unless MoPete has a bounceback year)?

I'm no commie, but the Reds shall be the best again!

by RedHopeful on Aug 12, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

IMO

It’s dead anyways b/c Wright didn’t play well at all last year. I know it’s super early, but I will be surprised if it doesn’t go Paul/Mo/Peja/West/Okafor to start off the preseason at least. I smell heavy minutes for Devin Brown at the 2 if Thornton doesn’t prove himself… good point though, he’ll certainly get the minutes to show his worth.

by Rohan on Aug 13, 2009 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aghhh

Yeah I really hope Thorton plays well enough to relegate Devin to last man on the bench.

by Caleb462 on Aug 13, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I smell heavy minutes for Devin Brown

Ow.

optimism ftw

by Cablinasian on Aug 14, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Them picking up the contract has value, too.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gonna miss him...

Rasual seemed like a good guy, and he had a hell of a year last season. The game-tying three he hit against Miami is one of those moments that you cherish as a fan; they may not linger in the echoes of basketball lore, but you’ll always remember them.

From a roster perspective, I do wish we had gotten more in return, as the deal basically amounts to a give-away. We may never see that pick, and sending cash along with it makes it feel like we gift-wrapped this one for LAC.

by Mr. Diamond on Aug 13, 2009 12:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Me too

I didn’t see the cash added until much after. I wonder if they couldn’t have got more by holding until Dec/Jan and then dealing… but I will readily assume that the Hornets know the market infinitely better than I do, and so, who knows.

I know Shinn said something like he wouldn’t mind being a little over the cap… I wonder who they’re looking at now to get that 4th big man spot.

by Rohan on Aug 13, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

would have liked to see them go after Nesterovic. Oh well.

optimism ftw

by Cablinasian on Aug 14, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely

That, along with his buzzer beater in Sactown…. won’t ever forget those.

by Caleb462 on Aug 13, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah this angers me somewhat.

But I mean for a guy’s value is at its peak, so if he ends up averaging 18pts and shoots 50% from three next season then well done, but it wont happen.

Just seems that George Shinn’s priorities are above everyone else’s. Hate the guy THAT much.

New Orleans Hornets: The most inconsistent team in the NBA.

by Grayson on Aug 13, 2009 3:41 AM CDT reply actions  

In the end,

Odds are this doesn’t affect the team that much. Saving 8 million for virtually no price seems like a good deal for the team too, not just Shinn.

by Rohan on Aug 13, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

gah(d) i hope our bench is better next year

if i have to watch devin brown step for a minute on the floor, mopete not get a chance, or juju not develop, it will hurt worse than watching tyson play injured last season

by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Aug 20, 2009 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

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