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Chandler for Okafor, 2 Months Later

It's been a while since the Okafor-Chandler trade went down. Quite a few statistical comparisons have been done, and some light has been shed.

But my primary takeaway from most analyses has been one of vague nebulosity. "If this happens, and this also sort of happens, then Chandler might maybe end up kind of worse than Okafor." So many awesome, measurable statistics exist, but none seems to provide anything definitive. The reason is the "fit" aspect. Simply put, the statistics of each player will not translate as is to new teams. I think most people understand this implicitly, but it's obviously quite difficult to quantify. So this post will not be an effort at quantification, but rather a look at the specific areas where "fit" will have an impact and potentially supersede the stats themselves.

The disparity between Okafor the rebounder and Chandler the rebounder seems clear cut at first glance. Okafor enjoyed a career best season on the offensive rebounding front in 2008-2009. (A quick refresher on offensive rebound rate: since it's a rate, the statistic accounts for total number of misses. So Charlotte missing a lot more shots than New Orleans wouldn't inflate Okafor's offensive rebound rate). After a career low rate in 2007-2008, his first season of 82 games, he rebounded sharply.

Okafor's career high 12.7% rate ranks below Tyson Chandler's career OREB rate (12.8%). Even during a down year, Chandler posted a 13.7% rate last year. This was despite numerous questions about both ankles. Chandler clearly did not have the impact on tipped rebounds that he did in seasons prior.

A straight stats comparison indicates that Chandler is the superior offensive rebounder, even at subpar health.

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Yet it may not be so clear cut after all. In his three seasons with New Orleans, Chandler most often partnered David West in the front court. After a superb rookie OREB season, West has mostly wallowed in mediocrity on the offensive glass. In 2008-2009, Chandler's injury provided a chance to step up; West posted the worst offensive board rate (6.5%) of his career. Tyson simply did not have a single teammate with the ability to take away his boards. Melvin Ely and Hilton Armstrong were the closest he had to "competition." Neither played very often with Chandler, and neither rebounded well anyway.

Okafor didn't have it so easy last year. The Bobcats finished 10th in the NBA in offensive rebound rate. Okafor often partnered with DeSagana Diop (14.7%) or sometimes Nazr Mohammed (12.8%) on the front line. Admittedly, there were times when he was on the floor alongside Boris Diaw (5.3%) or Vladimir Radmanovic (5.0%). Those two make me think twice about stating that teammate rebounding competition can explain the entire percentage difference between Okafor and Chandler. In the end, Chandler is still better on the offensive glass, but this is still something worth noting. Okafor will immediately move into a primary rebounding role alongside West. Whether that opportunity allows him to reach Chandler's OREB levels is doubtful. But

Defensive rebounding is another story entirely. Chandler and Okafor have been more or less equals on the defensive glass. Of course, last year saw Chandler take a severe tumble. While his offensive rebounding remained steady, defensively, he dipped precipitiously low.

The team perspective doesn't offer much, uh, perspective unfortunately. Despite his recent shortcomings on the offensive glass, David West is one of the better defensive boarders in the NBA, especially at his size. He's hovered right around a 20% clip for his career, coming in at 19.7% last season. For the Bobcats, Gerald Wallace submitted an impressive 20.3% campaign last year. So both Okafor and Chandler's front court mates offered comparable competition. There's nothing here to suggest that the two are not indeed highly similar on the defensive glass.

Interestingly, this disparity between offensive and defensive boarding suits the Hornets perfectly. Last year, New Orleans ranked as the 25th best offensive glass team in the NBA... also known as 6th worst. If Okafor can grab his opportunity as the primary rebounder (with no Diop/Mohammed nearby) and parlay it into career best numbers, the Hornets could stand to move up from their lowly ranking. On the other hand, New Orleans finished as the 7th best defensive glass team in the league. This was despite Chandler's struggles. If Okafor can maintain his career averages, the Hornets could easily vault into the top 3. (I know it's a simplistic substitution to put Okafor's averages in for Chandler's poor ones last year... but I can't imagine it would be very off). And that's not even taking into account Ike Diogu's contributions.

I'm also excited in re: the turnover department. It would be foolish to say the Hornets "struggled" with turnovers last year. They did finish 8th in the league, turning the ball over just 12.5 times every 100 possessions. But they did take a step back, relative to 2007-2008. That year, they tied for first in the NBA, turning it over just 11.4 times per 100 possessions (which seems minute, but that's close to one extra possession per game. Which can be huge). Some of the regression has to do with Chris Paul, who turned it over a little bit more. Whatever the case, the Hornets stand to benefit hugely from the acquistion of Okafor.

Some of you may have noticed that, um, Tyson Chandler can't really dribble. His career 18.2 turnover rate is a pretty strong testament to this (meaning, every ~5 possessions, he gave away the ball). The 18.2% rate is especially ridiculous given how many of his possessions simply involved two steps: (a) catch the ball, and (b) dunk the ball. Emeka Okafor brings a whole new dimension in that he can handle the rock pretty effectively. A 12.1% turnover rate (Emeka's career) is pretty impressive, given that he does post, back to the basket, quite regularly. I've always hated Byron Scott's propensity to draw up isolation post-ups for Chandler. Now they'll go to Okafor, and the proceedings will ostensibly be more enjoyable.

So in terms of turnovers and rebounding, we have reasons to be happy.

But! As great as all that is, there is one thing that will make or break this trade. The one thing is the pick and roll.

Basketball Prospectus' Bradford Doolittle wrote, in my opinion, the best analysis of this trade to date. The entire thing is worth the read, but I'd like to reference a portion of it. Like I made the case for above, Doolittle is also of the opinion that team chemistry or "fit" (or lack thereof) is what will ultimately determine Okafor's success.

It's not just the names you write into your lineup, it's how they fit together.... However, and this is an important consideration, there is a very real chance that Paul's ability to draw defenders to himself will turn Okafor into a more efficient offensive player. Since he's already pretty proficient, that could lift him to Chandler-like levels on that end and the Hornets won't be any worse for the wear.

Overall, NBAPET [Basketball Prospectus' proprietary projection system] sees Okafor skimming away a few possessions from the rest of New Orleans' first unit, but using those possessions with far less efficiency than Chandler did. So even though Okafor is a better offensive player than Chandler is, the Hornets' offense still projects to drop just a tad.

In sum: Chandler has been more efficient offensively than Okafor because of his ability to play off of Chris Paul. NBAPET projects that Okafor will bring over his less efficient game to New Orleans, because it doesn't know if Chris Paul will improve him to Chandler levels. Really, nobody knows. The critical component is the pick and roll, because that's the move that almost exclusively provided Chandler's improved efficiency.

Emeka Okafor's offensive efficiency pre-Chris Paul has been 106. Any guesses as to Tyson Chandler's offensive efficiency pre-Chris Paul? Yep, 106 flat. Chandler's first two years with Paul saw him jump to 117 and then a crazy 122.

At first glance, there is a factor that works in Okafor's favor. In other words, both those "106's" weren't exactly equal. Chandler's 106 offensive efficiency in five years with Chicago came at a 14.4% usage rate. In other words, he was a role player offensively. He was not a go to scorer, and the majority of his points came in assisted or put back situations. There was never a terrible degree of difficulty associated with his efficiency. Okafor's 106 offensive efficiency came at a usage rate of 20%. In other words, his team was actively looking for him to take on a scoring role.

 

Okay, time for my go to move, providing horrendous metaphors. Let's say Ndubuisi* and Cleotis* are both in their final years of engineering school. Ndubuisi is really good at creative thinking, coming up with his own solutions to problems. Cleotis isn't so good at that, but he's really swell at following rules. Both get hired once they graduate, by 3PC Industries, managed by Emmanuel*. Now Emmanuel is an awesome boss (and was once unfairly robbed by Bean* for MVB, Most Valuable Boss). He clearly and concisely instructs his employees on how to perform their jobs. Cleotis, of course, is good at following at rules. So he owns at his job. Ndubuisi, you'll remember, wasgood at coming up with his own solutions to problems. But... at this particular company, following rules is what takes you far. So even though in college, Ndubuisi may have been considered "better" or "smarter" or what have you, ultimately, it was the ability to follow rules that allowed for success at 3PC Industries.

So I'll give you a moment to sort that all out/furiously bang your head against the wall.

This metaphor made a lot more sense before I wrote it down, I promise. But the basic premise was to show that specific skill sets fluctuate in value, both in the real world, and in basketball. This phenomenon is obviously exacerbated when Chris Paul happens to be present.

In sum, a straight statistical comparison would suggest that Okafor has the advantage.  A model that integrates usage rates and some teammate effects, such as BP's, would suggest that Chandler has the advantage (especially assuming he regains his former defensive caliber). Taking into consideration the potentially inflated and deflated rebounding numbers, in terms of team fit, the truth lies in between the two models. Is that a cop out answer? For sure... but it's a more quantified one.

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Haha.

Fantastic article, love the metaphor I thought it worked well. Indeed the point you are making is that basketball is a jigsaw puzzle. One piece may be flippin’ fantastic and you would love it to fit next to your other fantastic piece, but it just does not fit. Where as your other piece you had, it may not be able to do things by itself but the connection is just oh so right.

New Orleans Hornets: The most inconsistent team in the NBA.

by Grayson on Sep 18, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One thing's for certain.

82 games of Okafor are far better than 45 games of Chandler. Even if there is a chemistry problem, Okafor is better than Marks/Armstrong/Ely at Center.

by redzero on Sep 18, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good article

and great comment Redzero. Okafor will be better, and steadier. Even if we moot the quantitative comparisons like atthehive states, it’s pretty easy to intuit that Okafor > Chandler.

by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Sep 21, 2009 12:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Im not convinced with Okafor

Okafor has to prove to me that he will be able to fit in with this extremely fast team. Although Okafor has better stats, Chandler has built a strong chemistry with Chris Paul. As long as Okafor does not slow the offensive movement down he will be a great contribution. I agree that Okafor is the better player but sometimes the better player is not what is needed, what is needed is the better FIT player. Chandler, although a center, ran the court like a guard. I just hope Okafor is ready to run and push the ball up the court on every rebound. I doubt the Hornets will change up there offensive style, after all it is what got them deep into the playoffs.
DC

by Basketball813 on Sep 21, 2009 1:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh, no offense....

But how many Hornets games have you seen? The Hornets aren’t “extremely fast.” In fact, they are extremely slow. Of the 30 NBA teams, they ranked 28th in pace last season.

Pushing the ball after every rebound is just not what the Hornets do. Since Byron Scott arrived the Hornets have played slow, methodical, pick and roll dominated basketball.

by Caleb462 on Sep 21, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice piece.

I’m not totally worried about our offense, though. Last year, I was sick of us having to run everything through Paul since no one had the ability to create for themselves. Yeah, Paul is awesome and we can still be very successful with that method, but it ultimately was a double-edged sword that limited our ability to adapt on the go.

That doesn’t mean I think we’re going to be awesome from day 1, but I think adding a player who becomes more of a post threat due to his “creative abilities” could go a long way for us.

Right now teams know that everything flows through Paul. If they throw him off, they throw off the team. It’ll be nice to have another option. And, hopefully, Okafor can figure out when he needs to “follow the rules” vs. when he needs to be “creative”… and I think it’ll probably happen since he’s working under an “MVB” candidate. It’s just a matter of when.

by hldomingue on Sep 24, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I love Okafor

I really like him as a player and even more as a stand up kind of guy (he’s done a lot of work for aids testing in africa) but i dont know if he’ll be right for the hornets. He’s a solid defender and rebounder for sure. He’s a great shot blocker. I would agree that he’s better than chandler at offense. But truth be told, his post skill and offensive skill are VERY limited, he is not very good at defending the pick and roll, he has small hands and drops the ball very often, and he has very little vertical leap, which leads to him getting his shot rejected under the rim quite often. By trading chandler, the hornets are definitely done with the crescent city connection. I guess the hope will have to lie on the idea that scott can properly utilize okafor in a different way offensively. The hornets will probably stay about the same when it comes to defense and rebounding, but the way Okafor will be expected to fit in offensively will be the key

oh and I would argue that this a statement made in favor of chandler

At first glance, there is a factor that works in Okafor’s favor. In other words, both those “106’s” weren’t exactly equal. Chandler’s 106 offensive efficiency in five years with Chicago came at a 14.4% usage rate. In other words, he was a role player offensively. He was not a go to scorer, and the majority of his points came in assisted or put back situations. There was never a terrible degree of difficulty associated with his efficiency. Okafor’s 106 offensive efficiency came at a usage rate of 20%. In other words, his team was actively looking for him to take on a scoring role.

Chandler was able to put up the same rate as Okafor with less utilization. If Okafor needed even more possessions and opportunities to put up the same rate, does that really say that he can be a better offensive player?

by rtgunn on Oct 4, 2009 2:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No, not really

Higher usage rate generally results in lower efficiency; the fact that you can sustain a usage rate with a larger workload is more impressive. Since it’s a rate state, it doesn’t mean that if you gave Chandler the same usage rate he’d sustain his efficiency.

by atthehive on Oct 7, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okafor--Poor Man's Bill Russell???

If Okafor will do his best Bill Russell shot blocking impersonation and take care of the defensive boards, and make his teammates better on the offensive end, then this team should run, run, run, and try to wear down other teams so that they then have a significant advantage during the last few minutes of each game…

by BirthTimes on Oct 8, 2009 6:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They also should play full-court, man to man defense as well, for a majority of each game.

by BirthTimes on Oct 8, 2009 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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