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Hornets Acquire Bobby Brown, Darius Songaila for Antonio Daniels

I'd normally put up a rapid reaction post right here... but hey, here's the full thing!

I think we all knew Antonio Daniels was on his way out. The timing was the surprise.

Darren Collison

For starters, I can't help but feel like DC is coming along well. I acknowledge I have no idea what the deal at backup PG is, but this is the sort of trade that could have been made midseason. With Daniels joining the Minnesota Point Guards, Collison should be the guy from Day 1. The coaching staff had to have given the green light to the front office at some point, and that's reassuring.

Bobby Brown

The Hornets also get Bobby Brown back in this deal. All of you should remember him from last year's summer league roster. The team had Chris Paul call him in an effort to retain him, but ultimately, a 2 year guaranteed offer from Sacramento trumped our training camp invite. It'd be naive to pretend like his star hasn't fallen a bit in the last year. He showed legitimate scoring potential at Cal-State Fullerton, regardless of his size. But last year, he posted a pretty mediocre 47.6% true shooting percentage. It would be foolish to write him off due to half a year in Sacramento and 20 more games in Minnesota... but thinking of him as a legitimate scorer might be equally silly.

On the plus side, an entire year of Bobby Brown puns!

Antonio Daniels

I know people will praise his professionalism and all that, but he was a steady, average producer. He is almost certainly a better passer than Bobby Brown, and has been a better ball handler through his career than Brown was last season. Additionally, his 4.0 FTA/36 minutes was a valuable skill off the bench. Brown won't come close to replicating that (1.7 FTA/36 last year). Daniels' career offensive efficiency (114) is likely far higher than whatever Brown's max will be (96 last year).

In approximately 245 defensive possessions with Sacramento, Brown ranked among the worst defenders, ceding about 5% more production than average to counterparts. Daniels, on the other hand, was quite impressive, holding opponents to about 8% less than their average production in approximately 265 defensive possessions with the Hornets. Brown improved tremendously with Minnesota, but a smaller sample size leaves me wary. Just observationally, Daniels 6'4" frame was valuable in help situations. I'm not sure Brown can emulate that.

So, as much as foot speed and age come into play, I think Daniels --> Brown is a certain downgrade, defensively and especially offensively. There is obviously the chance that Brown steps up his game. But the straight swap isn't necessarily so even.

Of course, Brown will be the third stringer. So he won't technically be Daniels' replacement; Collison will. That makes the swap worth it. As a third stringer, Brown should do just fine.

Darius Songaila

I'll have a fuller post on Songaila up soon. The initial scouting report is that (a) he can shoot, but he doesn't have three point range, (b) he makes his free throws, (c) he's a middle-of-the-road passer and rebounder, (d) he fouls pretty good. Perhaps a cheaper James Posey without the range?

Money

The Hornets save about 1.3 million dollars in sum (6.6 Daniels out, 4.55 Songaila in, 0.75 Brown in). This brings the net salary to $73,656,549, about 3.7 million over the luxury tax. This means that George Shinn would have to pay an additional 3.7 million dollars out of pocket.

So while it seems unlikely from a roster standpoint that the Hronets make another move... they might end up doing it anyways. Additionally, this trade brings the roster total to 15. I can't recall the last time the Hornets went into a season carrying 15 players, and I'm pretty sure it hasn't happened in the Byron Scott era.

One Possible Caveat

So overall, this trade sounds good and dandy. Get a solid 3rd string PG that we wanted last summer. Get a small/power forward that can foul and shoot pretty well. Get a million dollars off the books.

There is one issue that needs to be raised. One of the trademarks of Jeff Bower trades is that he acquires players with one more contract year than necessary. It happened with Mike James. We traded him for Antonio Daniels... and, again, it happened with Antonio Daniels. Now, the same is true with Darius Songaila. Songaila has a 4.5 million option for 2009-2010 2010-2011 that he'd be foolish not to pick up.

Pre-trade, the Hornets had 66.99 million commited to 2009-2010 player salaries (with Daniels coming off the books). Post-trade, the Hornets have 73.2 million commited to salaries, which will again be over the luxury tax. Is the potential lack of flexibility worth a player who won't factor into longer term goals (Songaila)? I don't know, but it's an interesting issue to consider. I like this trade for sure, and it can't be too hard to move a 4.5 expiring... but, it's worth pondering.

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trade is ok

makes us better, but i would have rather used the money to acquire a SG. Now I think we need to start Posey and Juju in the perimeter.

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by grimsleyfan on Sep 9, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i think it's a great move

songaila i feel has been consistently underrated as a player, for the last 3 years he’s been on some pretty haphazard wizards teams and i remember watching him play for Wake in college, and then when he played for Chicago; he is a smart player who’s tough, doesn’t play dumb or like he’s made out of straw when facing other bigs (cough, hilton, cough). I think there’s a strong possibility that he could be the surprise player of the year for the Hornets this season.

by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Sep 10, 2009 1:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

It’s just SOOO refreshing we don’t have to cringe with Armstrong/Ely/Marks this year. Darius Diogu is a significant upgrade. Finally, D West shouldn’t wear down as much as the season progresses.

Now if only Peja can give us a repeat performance of 2 years ago…

I'm no commie, but the Reds shall be the best again!

by RedHopeful on Sep 10, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You will love

Songaila’s blue collar work ethic, as well as his team-first approach, and I think that Bobby Brown could be much more productive when surrounded by such upgraded talent.

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by section214 on Sep 11, 2009 12:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate the trade because of the extra year on Songaila’s contract.

I also think that the Hornets could have a comparable talent for the veteran minimum — Joe Smith — without risking their salary cap next year.

I’m very unhappy with the trade.

by NBR on Sep 11, 2009 8:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

srsly?

Why is everyone so concerned about the money? Obviously no one wants to win anymore you’re just stuck in the save money mode. This trade gives us a deeper bench, and 2 guys that can play with better production, and less money. If Songaila doesn’t work out, then we can just as easily trade him seeing as he’ll have a cheap expiring contract. Be satisfied people. This is an excellent trade, and there may be one more to come.

by LocoSaint on Sep 11, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

You don’t think they can wheel and deal again to make it work next season? Would it have been better to keep Daniels extra cap stealing salary this year?

I'm no commie, but the Reds shall be the best again!

by RedHopeful on Sep 11, 2009 9:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought the team got lucky this offseason and got away cheaply while reducing it’s high luxury tax bill. It just as easily could have gone the other way, like when the Suns gave up two first round picks to move Kurt Thomas along. After getting away with it once … I don’t fancy the team trying it’s luck twice!

I would have preferred to have just seen Antonio Daniels’ contract expire.

Furthermore, if it were to be traded, I would have liked to have seen more of a difference maker acquired for that expiring deal. I don’t see Songaila as a good enough talent to justify this type of risk.

by NBR on Sep 11, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont think

you’re going to get a difference maker for a nonfactor whose contract is just 6.6 million. What? Did you expect us to trade AD for Kobe Bryant? That would never happen, unless Al Davis was running the show in LA.

by LocoSaint on Sep 11, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's productive?

Seems like losing an unnecessary 6.6 million backup for a cap-reducing needed backup makes sense. Of course there has to be a cost – an extra year of salary. Most likely, the Hornets probably tried at least 100 other avenues but this was the best one on the table.

Don’t forget, we’ve got one of the youngest most exciting MVP’s in the league. It’s not ok to tell him suck it up this year so that we might land a small signing next year for a reserve player.

I'm no commie, but the Reds shall be the best again!

by RedHopeful on Sep 11, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So this off seasons results: Chandler, Butler, Daniels for Okafor, Songaila, Brown and most importantly cap space.

Butler and Daniels are expiring contracts correct? Really thought expiring contracts would be worth more in this economy. In any case the Hornets shed some salary and don’t loose much. Hopefully everybody along with the rookies have a magnificent season.

by umdwas88 on Sep 17, 2009 2:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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