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The Hornets Beat the Bucks

It was, at times, infuriating, but the first win of the Monty Williams era was satisfying nonetheless. 

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Individual Performances

Let's start with the guy that, for all our summer moves, will define our season. The last time we saw Chris Paul play a regular season game, he went 2 for 11, posting 6 assists over 37 minutes. Many wondered if he'd ever be the same player again. Five months later, Paul showed during preseason that he'd regained his former mobility. Tonight: 17 points on 11 shots, 16 assists, 1 turnover. He looked like he's been playing with Trevor Ariza and Marco Belinelli for years. Brandon Jennings played a terrific, under-control passing game but didn't come close to matching Paul's overall efficiency.

Paul's favorite target, David West, was on the brink of a monster night. He couldn't miss a jumper, finishing 8 for 10 from outside the paint. But continuous foul trouble limited him to just 27 minutes. West's foul trouble was really the difference between a close game down the stretch and a double digit win. Jason Smith was used in the normal West role, shooting from the perimeter, but finished just 1 for 7 on jumpers. West certainly would have converted a couple more of those looks, but Milwaukee did a good job attacking him offensively to keep him on the bench.

Smith did play quality defense down the stretch though. Monty Williams' decision to sit West for Smith on defense in the final minute deserves a lot of credit; how many rookie head coaches pull an All-Star power forward for- let's face it- a scrub-type player, even if there's a clear defensive disparity (and foul trouble)? Well played. Smith didn't rebound nearly the way he did during the preseason though. He was bodied out consistently and finished with just 4 boards in 24 minutes. In unrelated news, Louis Amundson ate some almonds (son).

Marco Belinelli's Offense

Wow. As positive as Belinelli's preseason was, tonight was something else. Basically every time he touched the ball in the first half, he charged immediately towards the hoop. He played in control, he found open teammates with ease, he pulled off a crowd pleasing behind the back dribble/steal combination, and he was terrific off the ball. Oh, he also helped out in the rebound game, pulling down 6 himself and assisting teammates to other loose balls. 

His final line was 6 for 15 from the field; every one of those misses came within the rhythm of the offense. One game into the season, I'll go on record and say Julian Wright for Marco Belinelli was a stroke of genius by Dell Demps.

Trevor Ariza's Defense

Make no mistake, Ariza struggled offensively today. When he rose up for an isolation 20 footer with 10 seconds left on the shot clock in the first quarter, I recoiled in horror. None of his five (wide open) misses from three were particularly close. He missed an open layup down the stretch. And yet, he still played a major role in the win. Two of his four steals came as strips underneath the hoop. I couldn't tell in real time if his final steal was actually a steal or a foul. But John Salmons, his primary matchup on the night, finished 2 for 8 with 4 turnovers.

Monty Williams' System

It'll take a few games before particular trends begin to emerge. I'll go with the three things that especially stood out tonight.

(1) Freeing David West outside 15 feet

Byron Scott's and Jeff Bower's offenses usually accomplished this on the high screen that's come to define New Orleans Hornets basketball in recent years. Tonight was a little bit different in terms of how West was freed for his jumper. There were quite a few high picks, but West also worked off the ball and off of Paul's defender to get open. 

David West and Chris Paul working together isn't so much a "play" as it is the pair feeling each other out. But Williams made sure West got plenty of looks even outside of that dynamic.

(2) The Weakside Swing

Switching the ball from the strong side (side with the ball) to the weak wing to the corner three is one of the staples of San Antonio Spurs basketball under Gregg Popovich. We saw it happen a number of times tonight with generally quality execution. On most occasions, the ball handler would penetrate into the paint down the middle before making the pass to the weak wing.

By my count, the Hornets took eight corner threes (which Popovich is famous for) tonight. Almost every single one of them came with no defender in the vicinity. The Hornets missed all eight attempts (five of the eight were taken by Trevor Ariza and Willie Green). I hope the Hornets continue to go to this, though, placing Belinelli and Stojakovic in the corners instead. 

(3) Wild Guard Rotations

We knew that Thornton, Belinelli, Green, and Bayless wouldn't necessarily have defined roles. I didn't expect the blur we saw tonight though. At one point in the first half, New Orleans ran out a unit of Bayless-Thornton-Green-Ariza-Smith. In the second half, we saw a Paul-Thornton-Green look. Both units were surprisingly effective on both offense and defense. 

As disheartening as it was to see Willie Green come in ahead of Marcus Thornton, if MT plays well, he'll surely get some run in this blurred wing system. Thornton finished with 8 points on 6 shots in 11 minutes tonight, including a very solid defensive effort.

Aaron Gray and DJ Mbenga

D.J. Mbenga cannot be the primary backup at center if this team is going to go anywhere. He's a fine guy to have on the third string, but not beyond that. Tonight, he came in, failed to put in an easy layup, missed another layup point blank, gave away a cheap three point play, and committed a bad foul to send a Buck to the line. All of that happened in 6:45; Monty Williams went to Jason Smith at center (and Pops at PF) in the second half. That's absolutely not going to work from a rebounding perspective.

Leaving a career 14/21/17 rebounder inactive is never a wise move, especially since Aaron Gray has clearly worked himself into playing shape over the offseason. Before anybody says we need to sign a better post option, let's remember there's a very decent one sitting on our inactives list. 

*****

Some bullets to close:

 

  • Anyone else see John Hollinger's hilariously ignorant potshot at Chris Paul this morning? The exact quote: "Scouts tell me that Chris Paul looks out of shape, which is a huge red flag for the Hornets; I picked them to win 45 games based largely on Paul's brilliance, but if he can't play at an MVP level they're going to land miles short of that mark." Unbelievable. Can't wait to see what scout-derived analysis he has for us tomorrow morning. 
  • Andrew Bogut is really, really good. He's very strong, understands defensive and rebounding position very well, and he has ridiculous touch near the hoop. The fact that a guy like Andrew Bynum gets ten times the publicity Bogut does is criminal.
  • Ever since his brilliant nickname was coined, I can't stop laughing every time Corey Maggette touches the basketball. 
  • Emeka Okafor played just 25 minutes and committed some questionable fouls. I'll still defend him for his really good rebound rate and the overall high cost of post players, but hopefully he can return to his Charlotte numbers this season.
  • I don't know why I didn't realize this until now: Joe Alexander's presence on the roster means his contract is now guaranteed and counts against our cap. Sure, it's the minimum, but it means that even if we wanted to sign another free agent, we'd essentially be paying double price for him. 
  • New Orleans had 50 possessions in the first half, but slowed down to just 41 in the second half (20 in the third quarter, 21 in the fourth). 

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Hey people. Just started playing fantasy bball this year and decided I should support a team. As I have Ariza and Biedrens I thought the Hornets would be a good place to start. I don’t know very much about basketball but fantasy sports is a great way to get interested and learn. Go Hornets!

by andrew21nz on Oct 28, 2010 12:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Welcome

Always nice to get new commenters

by Rohan on Oct 28, 2010 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and I see Sean Marks played here for a couple of seasons. That’s cool cause I’m from New Zealand

by andrew21nz on Oct 28, 2010 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet as

I guess I’m not the only kiwi here after all

by Mayooo on Oct 28, 2010 4:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I see you’re a Wellington Phoenix fan (I’ll ignore the Bruins fan though :p). You live in Wellington? I’m a season ticketholder to the Phoenix

by andrew21nz on Oct 28, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

I’m from Nelson, but still like the Phoenix, how do u think they’ll go this season?

by Mayooo on Oct 28, 2010 9:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Can’t see it going very well unfortunately. They are good at home as usual but rubbish away, which leads to a miss of the playoffs I reckon. Hope I’m wrong but not liking what I’m seeing

by andrew21nz on Oct 29, 2010 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

I agree, although I haven’t seen many of their games it doesn’t seem to be going well :( hopefully they can prove both of us wrong

by Mayooo on Oct 29, 2010 5:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He became a fan favorite pretty quickly...

We loved him. He managed to do a lot with his (relatively speaking) limited skillset.

He even hit a game winner for us once.

by Caleb462 on Oct 28, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and I better call out my mistake. Biedrens plays for Golden State. I have Ariza and Okafor. My bad

by andrew21nz on Oct 28, 2010 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow what a game...

I have to say if there’s one thing that is noticeably different about this team it’s the defense. The rotations, the communications, the pick and roll defense, most things were good. There were still the odd frustrating things, like not rebounding the ball for instance, but even that was improved.

Nice to see.

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by Grayson on Oct 28, 2010 2:51 AM CDT reply actions  

David West Always Makes The Best Faces

Got around to watch it and I’m really pleased with the performance of the team last night. I still want Gray over Mbenga but time will tell I suppose. Williams, even with all of Gray’s weight loss, mentioned how he wanted Gray to be better and getting up and down the court. So I assume Gray’s not endearing himself to the new coach for whatever reason. Other than that, Willie Green was OK and the team really just went from showing nothing in the preseason to showing a lot of chemistry in this game. I was still surprised to see the lack of minutes Okafor got and, with Mbenga being his primary back-up right now, I’d like to see Okafor get more minutes honestly.

Chris Paul looked great, Trevor Ariza struggled with his shot but looked lively out there, Marco and Thornton (I thought) looked really good and David West still has the best mid range game in the league.

"You play to win the game."

by MrWayneKeller on Oct 28, 2010 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree with all of the above.

Oh and Rohan – that Chouest threat level thing is hilarious… love it.

by Caleb462 on Oct 28, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

C'mon Okafor!!!

The team played good last night but Okafor played like he was intimidated by Bogut’s height. 0 for 0 in FGs is terrible for a center playing with Chris Paul! I know the alley-oops to Chandler got me spoiled but Okafor is a way better post up player but for some reason didn’t show it last night.

by fshabazz on Oct 28, 2010 5:42 PM CDT reply actions  

So So Outing

It was a mediocre outing, struggling to win at home over a pretty banged up Milwaukee Bucks team.

Highlights were Chris Paul and David West.

CP looks like he’s back to his old self.

West is showing why he is really a small forward. I have a good feeling about West this season, though his lack of commitment to a contract extension is a bit troubling. Troubling but understandable considering CP’s vote of no confidence this off season.

Marco did ok. Though I have a feeling we may get a bit tired of his fadeaway/fallaway jumpers before the season is done.

Jerryd Bayless showed why he is not a point guard – a traveling turnover and a discontinued dribble turnover in about 8 minutes. Still, dude might make a decent shooting guard one day.

Okafor did fine on the boards. But 0 shots?

Ariza bombed freely from the outside, though he struggled to find his mark. Still, John Salmons flat out bombed, so Ariza must have been doing something right. Also, was that Ariza with the end of the game steal to seal the victory?

Willie Green. Unfortunately, he’s more of a backup point guard than Bayless will be. Not saying much, but it is what it is.

OVERALL: It was a win and that counts but Hornets will need to play much better than this in the coming weeks to have a hope of breaking .0500 this season. Bucks were playing without Michael Redd and key rotation players Chris DR who led them in scoring in the preseason last I checked and Mbah a Moute.

by MZURK on Oct 29, 2010 2:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Ha I always enjoy your in depth comments

Agreed on Paul.

West’s REB% are definitely those of a PF, but he can’t cover opposing 3’s, and if he played offense as a 3, many defenders could step out more effectively on him. I think you have to take the good with the bad since his shot is rare from the PF position but not so much from SF.

Marco: fallaway jumpers? I only counted one (the crazy one he banked in). I thought he did a terrific job attacking the rim, something this team has needed a lot more of the last couple years.

Bayless: Hopefully he can settle down soon. He’s way better than he showed on Wednesday. I think “point guard” is a lot more encompassing term in today’s game than it used to be. Having a scoring/combo playing the 1 is pretty viable, provided he is efficient. Let’s see if Bayless can pick it up.

Ariza: Really hoping he can cut down his threes (even if he’s open) and we can distribute those shots to others. Not sure on the last play, Bucks fans are convinced he was fouled, but I couldn’t tell at all.

by Rohan on Oct 29, 2010 2:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Ariza did make 12 of 32 3’s in preseason and last few years his form has looked good when he’s shooting from an open set position. I have absolutely no problem if he continues to shoot the perimeter jumper as long as it is usually of the mentioned variety.

I think we’ve got to cut Bayless some slack. He’s a 22 (?) year old who just got traded for the first time. Once the “I-really-want-to-impress-my-new-teammates” phase has passed, we’ll see he’s a talented player who is worthy of plenty of run.

by RedHopeful on Oct 29, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I also don't exactly get too giddy when the box score shows Ariza letting loose six treys, only to connect on just one of them.

It would probably be best for guys like Paul, West and Belinelli to take on the lion’s share of the offensive production and have Ariza get his buckets from within the flow of the offense (i.e. moving without the ball, as he did so aptly during his stint with the Lakers).

On the flip side, he does deserve credit on the defensive end of the court. Dude knows how to read and play the passing lanes, and with those lanky arms of his, I expect him to play the robber’s role quite eloquently this season.

by asdf213 on Oct 29, 2010 2:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

aaron gray

what gives here?
They signed him knowing his style and defense.
They prevented him from joining other teams in dire need of 7 foot center.
Now the new coach determins his running up and down court is not good enough!?
A 7 foot center not fast enough up and down court!?

Look, build your team around the players on the court at specific times.
When Gray is in, the team should be talented and coached well enough to switch to the defense and style he brings and the players on the court at that time.

This is raw.

by ppellico on Oct 29, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Must be a relative....

…. or someone who has yet to see how ham-handed and bumbling Aaron Gray is.

by 3ptace on Oct 29, 2010 12:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

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