Game 11: Hornets vs. Cavaliers
by Rohan on Nov 19, 2010 4:00 PM CST
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2010-11 NBA Regular Season
9-1 vs 5-5
November 19th, 2010
New Orleans Arena
7:00 PM CST
TV: NBALP
Probable starters:
Chris Paul
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Ramon Sessions
Marco Belinelli
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Anthony Parker
Trevor Ariza
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Jamario Moon
David West
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J.J. Hickson
Emeka Okafor
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Anderson Varejao
Your Pregame Moment of Zen
For months now, the Cavaliers' players, their coaches, and their fans have been saying all the right things. Last year was last year. The LeBron James era is over. This is a new team, a new regime, and LeBron James is as much an artifact of franchise history as Craig Ehlo or Brad Daugherty. And maybe they all do really believe it. After all, Byron Scott and other new additions to the franchise have no reason to concern themselves with what LeBron James did or did not bring to the team. But from a fan perspective, it's harder for me to contextualize it. If the best basketball player in the world quit my team on national TV, I'd probably have a hard time shaking it off like it was nothing.
In any case, here we are. Cleveland has outperformed expectations thus far. They stand firmly in the thick of the Eastern playoff chase. It's early yet, but it doesn't seem outlandish that they could beat out teams like the Nets, Knicks, or Cats to that 8th seed. Surprisingly, they're playing faster basketball (92.5 possessions a night) under Byron Scott than we are (90.5 possessions a night) under Monty Williams.
They're not particularly good at anything, but they don't turn the ball over, and they don't foul often. If you wind back the clock a little, you might recall that those are two of the traits Byron Scott established his New Orleans success upon.
Mo Williams and Andy Varejao are both game time decisions for tonight. As you can see above, I give the edge at every position on the floor to the Hornets. If the bench can keep things tidy, we optimally won't see Chris Paul in the fourth quarter tonight.
Notes:
- This is our final home game before a west coast road swing. We'll visit Sacramento, the Clippers, the Jazz, and the Blazers over the course of the next week.
- J.J. Hickson's role in the Cleveland offense continues to expand. If you remember back to last trade deadline, Hickson was the hang-up in a potential Amar'e to Cleveland deal.
- Hornet lead assistant Mike Malone was an assistant coach at Cleveland from 2005-2010. I'll be posting an interview I did with Coach Malone soon.
- Other connections: Ryan Hollins was a former teammate of both Emeka Okafor (CHA) and Trevor Ariza (UCLA). Monty Williams and Anthony Parker were teammates on the 1999-2000 Orlando Magic.
- It's been almost exactly nine months since Marcus Thornton scored 37 points against the Cavs, including 23 in the second quarter alone. For tonight, he's listed as the following: "Marcus Thornton (resolving contusion - right quadriceps) is probable." Pretty sure he's still inactive though.
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Do I Even Need To Say It?
I have to work tonight. I hate my job.
On a game related note, this game kind of worries me a bit. With a really tough schedule coming up, just finishing off that interesting little mini series with Dallas and with the Byron Scott returning distraction, this could be a bit of a trap game for the Hornets all things considered. I know I feel like every game could be a trap game, but this one really could be. As you said, if the Hornets come out and play their game, they should win it handily and it’s hugely beneficial if the team finds a way to get the starters some early rest before heading out for the road trip.
I hope the players play well and that they take care of business. But since I won’t be able to do it, I hope you guys call pull them through tonight.
Go Hornets!!
"You play to win the game."
Man I feel for you
Seems like you can hardly ever catch the games. Where do you work if you don’t mind me asking?
I Work At A Bed Bath and Beyond
It sounds like bitch work but it’s actually pretty tough. At least when you have to close and you work with a bunch of incompetent, immature fools.
"You play to win the game."
by MrWayneKeller on Nov 19, 2010 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
For once
I actually don’t feel like its a trap game. Monty has done a good job of getting our team ready most nights plus the players I’m sure won’t want to lose to Scott.
Today must be
change your profile picture day. Haaa
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"Life is such a roller coaster and then it drops, but what should I scream for this is my theme park" ~ 'Lil' Wayne
by OnPointLikeCP3 on Nov 19, 2010 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
yeah plenty to choose from
At The Dirty Hive Entertainment
or
Players 2 Players 4 Us
by RedHopeful on Nov 19, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I used to really dislike the Cavs
But now… without Lebron, they are a lot easier to root for. Plus I still have some respect for Scott. I soured on him because of the Buckets/Dimes fiasco…. but as Rohan pointed out in his post, there is still a lot to like about him.
Of course I hope we destroy them tonight.
For whatever reason
I didn’t realize how much Jason smith looks like Ryan Bowen from afar until today.
The leg pads are what makes it
Hmm... not a great quarter
Can’t allow a team to go 4-8 from three in the first quarter. And the Cavs are playing effective D on everyone but West right now.
Haha probably
I want Gray to play as much as anyone, but I’m resigned to the fact that he won’t for the foreseeable future. Just not happening.. :(
He's 'pro' after all.
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
This is a League Pass game? Dammit!
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 7:47 PM CST reply actions
Is it on the radio?
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 7:47 PM CST reply actions
Doing my best Vinnie Barbarino...
“What?… Where?”
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't see any "links above"...
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks, bro
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 7:49 PM CST reply actions
Somebody needs to take a shot before that...
West and Paul both had opportunities… they weren’t wide open but hey…
They are a
good looking team, except at PG.
"I'm not a businessman, I'm a business, man" ~Jay-Z
"Life is such a roller coaster and then it drops, but what should I scream for this is my theme park" ~ 'Lil' Wayne
by OnPointLikeCP3 on Nov 19, 2010 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
hotel
internet died and just came on..what the hell happened!
oden situation
means that teams will come asking into aaron gray
sooo many teams
are in need of big centers today
Yao was always underrated
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
take away paul
and i’m telling you, we fall as well.
paul makes everybody soooo good because he can shott any time he wants so they have to stay w him
No arguement here...
… but you could say the same thing about D West.
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
I remember...
… when Ming first came into the league how Skip Bayless said he would be a wash. But, he proved himself and not only as a great player, he’s a great person.
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah it has been awesome
Suggests that last year Oak was just being made to look bad due to horrible perimeter defense.
no center
man, when a team loses its star(s), things go to hell.
all plans are thrown out the window
remember last year for us???
not i long run
don’t know who theyve played…but their team took a beating this summer
not a big lover
of just making playoffs.
its a trick for fans
if you can’t get past 1 round, it was waste
Its a good goal for a young team or an up and coming team
In the NBA, where championships are not spread among a lot of teams… sometimes you take what you can get.
I never thought of basketball as a 'class' game.
I don’t know what that means in this context.
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
It means the Hornets are far better than the Cavs
That’s all.
I’m not using class in the socio-political sense, lol.
Doin' my best Forrest Gump...
… Class is as class does.
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
What's up!?
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Done accounting exam
All I could think about what the balance sheet of the New Orleans Hornets…weird right?
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I'm cool with
any player that refuses to give the ball to Paul and gets a layup instead. Too much deference to CP has been an issue in the past… Belinelli does what he wants, and he’s efficient.
Belly-nelly may be the free agent pickup of the decade
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Yea as soon as I start watching...
Not good…
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I can't watch the game because I don't use Cox
But looking at the stat. line/box score, all I can see is Byron Scott:
Most productive player: Antawn Jamison.
Players with more PT than Jamison: Joey Graham, Jamario Moon, JJ Hickson, and about to be Ryan Hollins.
I’m so happy for two clear reasons: 1) Hornets win! 2) No more unforgivable, strategically incomprehensible, tactically stubborn, Byron Scott head-game obstinacy. Go Monty!
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Nov 19, 2010 8:38 PM CST reply actions
what's a good foul?
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
When you foul Shaq
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We got this one. Catch y'all later.
"You need me. You all need me so you can point your f***ing finger and say 'There he goes! ...There goes The Bad Guy.' ... So, take a good look because you'll never see another Bad Guy like this, I'll tell you that much." - Tony Montana in 'Scarface'
by a_suitable_case_for_treatment on Nov 19, 2010 8:44 PM CST reply actions
The Celtics-Thunder game was bizarre
Both teams had exactly two made field goals in the fourth quarter. Oklahoma didn’t get one in the last ten minutes of the game.,. and yet they still managed to eke out a win.\
Hornets seem to be doing alright, although everytime I glance at the Yahoo game commentary we seem to be missing a three pointer.
#2 Sean Marks fan on the blogs
Flagrant...
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This commentator sounds like a complete and utter drunk
For Cleveland.
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I mean when he said
“Oh Two Birds from the Corner!” I laughed so hard, really it’s quite hilarious.
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Beauty
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On the other hand...
Matt Barnes apparently can’t miss in that game.
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Ugh, indeed...
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We have kept the Cavs in this game...
What are we doing?
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1 Turnover for Cleveland this quarter
That shows lack of defensive intensity.
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Have to hold Cleveland under 100
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How was it a foul?
That’s happened a few times tonight
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Look at whether it was a foul rim-job refs.
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Exactly
Absolute joke that they’re even in this.
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This is a joke
How are Cleveland even in this? Jesus…
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David West again with the tip for the steal
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Ariza what the heck!?
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Okay a wins a win
But I expect a lot of the guys to not be happy
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