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Game 16: Hornets vs. Spurs

2010-11 NBA Regular Season

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November 28th, 2010
New Orleans Arena
2:00 PM CST
TV: CST, NBALP 
Probable starters:
Chris Paul > Tony Parker
Marco Belinelli
< Manu Ginobili
Trevor Ariza = Richard Jefferson
David West
> DeJuan Blair
Emeka Okafor < Tim Duncan

Your Pregame Moment of Zen

Have yourself some lols.

The Spur Outlook

Surprise, surprise, the Spurs are, for the millionth year in a row, pretty damn good. Not to jinx anything, but San Antonio appears a lock to qualify for the playoffs for a fourteenth consecutive season (and hey, what do I care if I jinx the Spurs). But peeling back the onion a little bit reveals that this isn't the same old team that routinely made the casual playoff-viewing public shrivel their noses and cry. 

No, this team plays not just efficient offense, but exciting offense. They're fast. They get up and down in a hurry. They still play decent defense, but these days, the D is predicated more on forcing turnovers than keeping down floor percentages (obviously the staple of the Spurs in the 2000s). Through 15 games, the Spurs boast the second most efficient offense in the league (trailing the obvious), shooting better than all but two teams in the conference. I never thought I'd say this about a Popovich-coached group, but the team has forged an offensive identity that far supersedes its defensive one. 

From an overall perspective, B-R SRS system rates the Spurs the number one team in the NBA. The usual suspects- Timmy, Tony, Emmanuel- are all producing, so the Hornets will have their hands full tonight.

Subplots

  • The first game feels like it happened multiple seasons ago. I don't think either team has really changed much in the past two weeks... we've just learned more and more that both squads are probably for real.
  • The Spurs never foul, ever. The Hornets have done a middling job of drawing fouls. So basically unmovable object meets altogether resistible force.
  • The Hornets are the league's last remaining undefeated team at home. The Spurs are the league's last remaining undefeated team on the road. Ooh, intrigue.
  • Some lols were had above already, but 2k11 changing Tony Parker's loyalty rating from 87 to 0 is also worth mentioning and laughing about. 
  • The Miami Heat still have a higher point differential than the Hornets, despite losing for the 8th time last night. It makes you wonder what exactly was going on in their cupcake games. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm starting to think that their wins may have come against teams comparable to your average SEC football non-conference schedule. 
  • Tyson Chandler made 13 of 16 free throws against the Spurs Friday. Emeka, the gauntlet has been thrown. 
  • Win and we're tied for 1st... excitement!
  • Win or lose, and we still have 66 games to play... boredom! 
  • Is it just me, or was Bruce Bowen's presence in the league just a really long, really bad nightmare? Bruce Bowen never actually existed in real life, right? I mean, just the name sounds silly.

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Probably not quite

not quite the place for it but do you (does anyone here) read Arturo Galletti over at Arturo’s Silly Little Stats? He’s got a lot of interesting things going on over there (based in the WP48 metric), I think … The latest installment of his Championship Equation series has some good things to say about the Hornets … Okafor does a lot for the team (second to Paul) but he’s no Tyson Chandler … let’s hope he changes that …

(sorry for the off-topic comment … I live in Japan … )

by unnamed on Nov 28, 2010 10:40 AM CST reply actions  

Chandler is playing as well as he ever has

Including his excellent 07-08 run.

He makes the Mavs a bit scary. I’ve never thought of them that way before.

by Caleb462 on Nov 28, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't Wait

The Hornets could really do themselves a lot of favors with a win here today against San Antonio. I’d imagine the Spurs are going to play hard because they don’t want to drop two in a row overall, two in the series to the Hornets, etc. One thing I saw that bothered me was that the Spurs resigned Ime Udoka to the team. I’m not sure if you all remember, but he killed us in that one playoff series. As a result, I took strange pleasure in watching his career fall apart after that. Booo Udoka.

It should be a great game and I’d lie if I didn’t say I’m incredibly excited about the game. It’s an early start and those are always pretty bad, but hopefully the crowd is live, the team gives them a reason to be live and the Hornets play Hornets basketball.

Go Hornets!!

"You play to win the game."

by MrWayneKeller on Nov 28, 2010 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

Hey guys.

I’m new, but would like to say I’m not all to familiar with this stuff. So bare with me.

by Cp3_4lyfe on Nov 28, 2010 10:54 AM CST reply actions  

Welcome!

and if you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate to ask. :)

by RedHopeful on Nov 28, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't realize this was a 2:00 start!

Just getting here…. looks like we had a great start.

by Caleb462 on Nov 28, 2010 2:49 PM CST reply actions  

Oof

Tough foul there on Jsmith

by Rohan on Nov 28, 2010 3:50 PM CST reply actions  

sigh

such a great first half, would be a shame to waste that.

by Caleb462 on Nov 28, 2010 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

Its Chris Paul time

At this point in the game… I’d like to see him be the scorer we all know he can be

by Caleb462 on Nov 28, 2010 4:05 PM CST reply actions  

This is ridiculous

tired of this team blowin leads

Get ready to FEEL DAT BREES!!!

by born in areacode 318 on Nov 28, 2010 4:06 PM CST reply actions  

From now on the guards need to

drive to the basket and get fouled or drive and kick it out

Get ready to FEEL DAT BREES!!!

by born in areacode 318 on Nov 28, 2010 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

easier said than done

Spurs are playing great D right now.

But plenty of time left.

by Caleb462 on Nov 28, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

It seems like

every time a Spur falls to the ground the whistle blows

by jtballard2 on Nov 28, 2010 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

are you kidding me

blew a 17 point lead at home and will lose by double digits wtf.

by Jamian B on Nov 28, 2010 4:15 PM CST reply actions  

Well, its a long long season folks

Despite the discouraging things we’ve seen, we are 12-4. Its been a tough stretch but only the Clippers loss looks particularly bad, even if they did just blow a huge lead. Spurs are one of the best 3 teams in the league. We took one from them at their place, and they took one from us at the hive.

by Caleb462 on Nov 28, 2010 4:18 PM CST reply actions  

true

but caleb the way they took this from us looks bad. Only putting up 29 points so far in the 2nd half and blowing a 17 point lead just looks bad. I would expect that from a bad team.

by Jamian B on Nov 28, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Ehh, I'm a lot more depressed

Really bad games against Cleveland, Sacramento, Clippers. Got destroyed by the Jazz. Beat Portland, but I think the Blazers are a mentally weak team right now and around 8 seed material. And then despite our lead today, we still just got blown out on our home floor.

I still think this is a middle of the pack West team, but the delusions of grandeur (top 3 team) are beginning to fade for me.

by Rohan on Nov 28, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

and wth the bench with only 16 points hard to beat a team like the spurs when you get no bench production especially at home.

by Jamian B on Nov 28, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I still think we can be the 2nd or 3rd best team in the West by year's end

Though I understand your discouragement. Still, that 8 game winning streak was just as valid a look at who this team is as the 4-4 stretch we’ve just seen. Yet either is fully representative of who this team is exactly. We may not fully know until the all-star break.

I think anyone of us would have taken 12-4 before the season started. There are thing to work on but I’m still pleased overall.

by Caleb462 on Nov 28, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

I would have taken 12-4 start before the year started, but for some reason i feel cheated lol. I guess I’m a greedy fan. Hopefully we right the ship soon haven’t played good ball in over a week.

by Jamian B on Nov 28, 2010 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I think we lose again

at OKC I just don’t like what I have seen from this team in the last week. The defense looks shaky and our offense hasn’t been great.

by Jamian B on Nov 28, 2010 4:21 PM CST reply actions  

For some perspective

in 07-08, we were 10-6 after 16 games and had recently been blown out by the Pacers(!) and lost by medium to large margins to the Timberwolves(!), Jazz and Magic.

Not saying it means anything one way or another, just something to keep in mind.

by Caleb462 on Nov 28, 2010 4:28 PM CST reply actions  

Hornets also needed overtimes in both of the early games against memphis to win

And had been recently blownout by the Pistons (who were good that year, but still).

Just trying to cheer you guys up! Its a marathon not a sprint, blah blah, various cliches, etc.

by Caleb462 on Nov 28, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Embarassing

Effort in the second half.

"You play to win the game."

by MrWayneKeller on Nov 28, 2010 4:47 PM CST reply actions  

sorry I missed the game

Then again…..maybe not.

had to take my kid back to SEMO.

see gray didn’t play, again, so it must have been another coach plan to keep the game fast?

by ppellico on Nov 28, 2010 5:58 PM CST reply actions  

nobody wants to hear it

b ut i need to say it…for myself.
To last through through the season,the Hornet better find a way to get big and strong up the middle.

I grow so tired of the fast, outside game.

’till next game….

by ppellico on Nov 28, 2010 6:01 PM CST reply actions  

Now That I've Been Able To Calm Down

The 2nd half was just awful. I was so excited with the bal movement in the first half, but I told my girlfriend that they wouldn’t be able to keep up the hot shooting because it was all jump shots. But I had no idea it would get THAT bad.

Belinelli was AWFUL.
Ariza and Paul played soft.
David West, Marcus Thornton and even Willie Green were the only reasons to enjoy the game. It was just bad all the way around.

What a shame that they had a chance to send a clear message and they let it just fall apart. That second half was atrocious.

"You play to win the game."

by MrWayneKeller on Nov 28, 2010 6:05 PM CST reply actions  

glad to hear

you say Thornton did well.
I am rooting for him.

by ppellico on Nov 28, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

What do you mean

when you say Paul played soft?

i read all the above and it sounded like he had gotten tired.
was he just able to find anybody tonight?

by ppellico on Nov 28, 2010 6:14 PM CST reply actions  

Heh...

The game was too bad, with bad collapse in the 2nd half.

But I just read Rohan’s preview, and it was hilarious. Tony Parker… Bruce Owen… multiple lols ^^

by MZURK on Nov 28, 2010 9:59 PM CST reply actions  

stayed out of the fray tnight.

i KNEWW nobody wanter to hear my nonstop crap tonight, so I just read the pain of others.

Oh, well. It’s not my team. Just a fan,
I suppose this blogging crap is supposed to help allow a little release of our emotions…but it’s not doing it for me.
I actually am beginning to feel more and more disconnected. more angry.

So perhaps its time to go quietly into the fog.

by ppellico on Nov 29, 2010 10:20 PM CST reply actions  

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