Game 4: Hornets @ Rockets
by Rohan on Nov 3, 2010 2:00 AM CDT
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Print| 2010-11 NBA Regular Season | ||
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| 3-0 | @ | 0-3 |
| November 3rd, 2010 | ||
| Toyota Center | ||
| 7:30 PM CST | ||
| TV: CST, NBALP |
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| Probable starters: | ||
| Chris Paul | > | Aaron Brooks |
| Marco Belinelli |
< | Kevin Martin |
| Trevor Ariza | = | Shane Battier |
| David West |
= | Luis Scola |
| Emeka Okafor | < | Yao Ming |
| Advanced Statistics: | ||
| Offense | Defense | Stat | Offense | Defense |
| 106.3 | 99.4 | Pts/Pos | 109.9 | 116.2 |
| 51.1 | 47.4 | eFG% | 47.7 | 49.8 |
| 0.239 | 0.231 | FT/FG | 0.328 | 0.266 |
| 17.7 | 76.7 | REB% | 29.4 | 70.1 |
| 13.1 | 14.7 | TOV% | 13.9 | 10.5 |
| 92.5 | Pace | 100.7 |
Terrible, Vaguely Relevant Game Pun
Houston, We Don't Have Liftoff
The Rocket Outlook
After a very strong opening half against the defending champion Lakers to start the season, things have fallen apart a bit for Houston. They went on to be outscored by L.A. 61-48 in the second half, visited Golden State only to have another 132 dropped on their defense, and rounded it off with a 13 point home loss to a Denver Nuggets team on the tail end of a road back-to-back. Kyle Lowry, one of the team's best perimeter defenders, returned to action against Denver and figures to get time on Chris Paul. Meanwhile, Yao Ming is on a strict 24 minute-a-night limit and apparently won't play in back-to-backs. As much as they struggled in the season's opening week, Houston will be well-rested and hungry for their first win of the year.
Defensive Woes
It's weird to associate Houston with mediocre defense. But for the second consecutive year, it's looking more and more like that will indeed be the case. The perimeter D has been especially sieve-like. It'll be interesting to see who they stick on CP3; again, I'd anticipate a healthy Lowry getting extended minutes. Don't be surprised if Marco Belinelli takes up the powerful driving cudgel once again, as we saw on opening night.
Through 3 games, the Rockets have allowed 116.1 points per possession. Oddly enough, they've played decent field goal defense and haven't gone overboard with fouling either. Their two shortcomings have been defensive rebounding and a total inability to force turnovers. While New Orleans isn't necessarily a turnover prone team, the second unit has shown a tendency to cough it up. Additionally, the Hornets have been one of the league's worst offensive rebounding teams thus far. In a nutshell, the Hornets' offense may not be in position to take advantage of Houston's two largest flaws thus far.
Subplots
- Trevor Ariza returns to Houston, mere months after the team unceremoniously dumped him and his contract. Ariza hasn't exactly lit it up on the offensive end, but he has been superb defensively. He should get the assignment on one my absolute favorite players in the league, Kevin Martin.
- Aaron Brooks didn't receive a contract extension offer by Monday's deadline. Given the dearth of overall offers, it's not that surprising. However, Memphis' Mike Conley did receive $45 million over five years, and they're not too dissimilar talent-wise.
- Houston has allowed 9 made 3-pt field goals a night, the league's third worst mark. Perhaps it's a chance for Marco Belinelli (and/or Peja Stojakovic) to finally get going from distance.
- In his last four trips to Houston, David West is averaging 31.5 points and 9.0 rebounds a game. The last time he visited, he scored 35 points on 16 of 20 shooting. If memory serves, Chuck Hayes was the primary defender on him in each of those games. Hayes will likely start on the bench tonight.
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Damn
This game starts at the exact moment my class at college starts :( and my class lasts two and a half hours. I will be lucky to catch the end. I might have to just go on a media blackout and catch the replay on CST.
That's funny
I’ve got a midterm during the game too. Hopefully should be out some time in the second quarter though.
Should be 116.1 points per 100 possessions
116.1 points per possession would be very poor defense, indeed.
Great preview. Looking forward to tonight’s game. Hopefully with the Revenge factor and the Rockets Def. Ariza finds his shot from deep. If not I waiting to see Belinelli carry some of that great shooting from the preseason.
Going to be tough tonight
HOU lost by 2 to Lakers and 4 to the Warriors (where Ellis was crazy sick on fire!) Admittedly, no idea what happened in their home opener against the Nuggets but expect the opposite amount of effort by this experienced Adelman group.
We’re likely going to need someone to be special outside of CP3 and West and would be sweet to see Ariza show up his former team. Wouldn’t be a bad time for Bayless to make his mark as a Hornet either.
This game is going to be tough....
….not that any SW foe is easy nowadays , but
Houston isn’t going 0-4 without a fight. I would like to see Bayless go off. It certainly would be a good time for it. I play ball with a lot of Rocket tards so I really don’t want to have to listen to their stuff.
And Kevin Martin OP??? :yack:
Worst looking shot since the days of Jamal ‘silk’ Wilkes IMO. How it ever finds net is a pure mystery of science.
by 3ptace on Nov 3, 2010 11:12 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Should Be Good
Have to work again. Damn my job.
But anyways, this game should be good. The game’s in Houston, Houston’s desperate for a run, and the Hornets are playing solid ball. Don’t take into account that the Hornets are just as rested as Houston. There’s no excuse to come in there and lay an egg tonight. And, unless the Rockets plan on going really small, they’ll have to sacrifice either Aaron Brooks, Kevin Martin or Kyle Lowry. They’re either giving up scoring or defense tonight. The Hornets need to take advantage of that. Here’s hoping that the good start continues tonight.
"You play to win the game."
C'mon Okafor....
I hope Aaron Gray plays tonight. When Okafor has a taller defender on him, he don’t try to score or jump for rebounds. Chris Paul, D West, Thornton & hopefully Peja or Bellineli will have to win it.
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Going into Houston to play a 0-3 team at home which is averaging 110 pts. a game should be a real test for the new “Bee-Fense”. Plus Houston is not exactly playing like a 0-3 team , and now with Yao (for his 28 min. ) they have an un guard-able big , a true scorer at the two , Scola playing like a monster after the worlds at the 4 ( which should be a great battle between two great offense PF’s both with less than great defensive records ) a scoring point guard and multiple 3 pt shooters , not to mention the fact that Houston runs two distinct offense with and without Yao , the offense showcasing Brad Miller at the 5 runs the floor more and runs a flex in the halfcourt with Miller distributing out of the high post … should be a good test for the Hornets defensively, and if we can keep them under 100 our chances look good
by chief youngblood on Nov 3, 2010 2:47 PM CDT reply actions
Personally
I think it’s messed up. Most of the arguments I’ve seen defending it say that Charlie V shouldn’t have taken it to Twitter or that he shouldn’t have let it get in his head or that KG outplayed him so it clearly worked.
All of those things just deflect the attention off of KG’s comments. Sure, trash talk is an integral component of basketball, but I’m not sure KG making fun of an entire demographic (of anyone, let alone cancer patients) is “trash talk” as much as it is ignorant.
I tend to have a pretty black sense of humor myself
And I sort of have an “anything goes” philosophy when it comes to joking around… but it all depends on context. A cancer joke might not be inappropriate between a couple of friends, both of whom know that its a joke… but outside of that context – ie during an NBA game, it might be.
That said, I’m sure far worse things have been said during NBA games and they’ve just never been made public. Doesn’t make it cool, just pointing that out.
Ultimately I think it reinforces the image of KG as a bit of a jerk, but if he really did say it he should have owned up to it.
Good points
It reminds me a little bit about something Zach Galifiniakis once said about racism- it exists entirely as a relative phenomenon. If someone were equally horrible towards (or in Zach’s case, joked about) various races, they wouldn’t be a racist. They’d maybe be a horrible person to be around (or again in Zach’s case, perhaps funny), but not racist. Racism implies that you put someone up or pull someone down, relative to others.
And I think that applies a lot to what you say about “anything goes.” If you remove that context, maybe some terrible things come off as even worse. Making fun of cancer patients could fall under that “anything goes” context if KG was with his friends and everybody understood no harm, etc. In the context of saying it to a guy that’s obviously gone through a lot with alopecia, etc, I guess it’s another thing entirely. Sucks for KG that CV posted it for the entire NBA world to see, but I don’t feel that bad for him haha.
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Haha
I posted that on Facebook since November 3rd, 1988 was the first game in franchise history.
It was my birthday two days ago though haha
Well Happy Birthday Rohan
And I’m surprised nothing was mentioned of the franchises birthday…
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Okafor just fell down...
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tough when he flaps his wings on every play…seriously every time he touches the ball he tries to draw a foul
by EaglesFanatic80 on Nov 3, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
The Chuck Wagon is the GROSSEST NAME
Filth
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by Grayson on Nov 3, 2010 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
If the NBA changes the goaltend rules to european one's.
Mbenga will be so good.
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Jesus Jerryd Bayless sucks
I haven’t seen him do one good thing today or since he’s been here. Okay give him time blah blah, but goodness.
He’s not playing defense, looking terrible with his passes, missed an array of open shots.
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LoL I was gonna write it but I have wrote too many negative things already…he is getting destroyed by Lowry right now…kid needs to step it up.
by EaglesFanatic80 on Nov 3, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah give him time
But sometime’s it’s more than a system thing, his defense was pretty terrible just let guys blow by him. And open shots are open shots, gotta hit em.
Haven’t seen that “aggressiveness” towards the basket everyone talks about. I mean sure when Green and Thornton are on the floor it’s most likely the offense goes through them, but not all the time.
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nice D, Hornets hanging in there
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
MBenga
If he stays the team second center…I am done following the team.
It’s insanity.
Don’t care what the coach is thinkng.
stupid.
I won’t stop following the team but he is pretty terrible…he can’t rebound or box anyone out
by EaglesFanatic80 on Nov 3, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Bring Back Gray.
He earned his minutes all last year.
by m-W on Nov 3, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahaha
Wow what a statement.
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Good God somebody make a shot/free throw
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
Wow we suck at free throws...
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needed that badly good
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
Mbenga
The saeson is long. drinking coolaid so early when really tough/deep teams are going hit us upside the head, MBenga as an aswer will be to difficult for me to take.
gray out played him preseason, so whats up
we need blocking and we need a scoring center.
Great passer and rebounder.
YOU tell ME whats up
Terrible shooting, but still only down by six
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
Limiting a team like the Rockets to 49 points is pretty good.
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Lennon said...just give me some truth
work with me…give me a rail to hold onto
Not great.
Not doing anything on offense really. Defensively we’ve been solid, given up to many Points in the paint and what not. Ariza has done little, same as Belinelli, Bayless, Mbenga.
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What the F
David West has 7 rebounds! LOL
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Nor has Peja being the casualty.
And last I looked, their bench was outscoring ours. Not a coincidence.
by m-W on Nov 3, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
4 on Ming, man Brooks from far far away
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
yeah that was nice, good run here
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
nice
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
another nice block by oak
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
When did this game
become Nelly-Warriors v. Nelly-Mavericks? Crazy up and down runs coming furiously.
yeah the Hornets are really looking to push it everytime
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
good passing and Oak with two free throws good
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
David West give me headache's with his defense...
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nice
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
Bologna!!!
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Who are your favorites
I can’t remember last season too well off the top of my head, but Minnesota’s guys are always awesome
say no more…tell him to just play defense and take no shots
by EaglesFanatic80 on Nov 3, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
I like his effort usually but a few times now in these first few games I just want to tell him to STOP shooting
yeah that was nice and you were right about green, he really forced that one
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
Thru 3 quarters
I’d have taken a 2 point lead before the game.
How about us holding them to 40 FG% at home so far?
nice
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
OK new idea
Every time Green makes a shot, someone comments GREEN and we all rec it to make it Green.
This would be awesome if we ever got a chance to do it.
yeah light em up bayless
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
effin bricklayers with the long rebound
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
I hate the Rockets commentators with their gay nicknames.
Bud…that’s filth. And the Chuck Wagon is the worst.
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not great offense but two points
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
and again
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
lol very true
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
even got the microwave Thornton going, nice
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
Yet AGAIN
CP3 is getting fantastic rest and we’ve actually increased our lead. This would be the greatest thing since sliced bread if this team could keep this up the entire year.
good D by Oak, come on Oak
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
damn bad sequence there
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
Too much Willie
is a bad thing.
I remember following Liberty Ballers some the last several years and when Green got a ton of run, it really got on their nerves.
nice willie
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
bail out nice, come on offense, nice
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
Love
that he’s at least trying to tip it back out. In his career, I don’t remember him hardly ever doing this – rather he’d always just try to board it himself. Someone work with him on this?
effin right Marco for two
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
I called it!
I said he was going to “take up the powerful driving cudgel”!!!!
For anyone that doesn’t play PES, that’s probably the weirdest sentence ever.
the rockets announcer said he travelled haha
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
CPfing3
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
Dwest for 2 wtf?
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
+1
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
I absolutely
hate the new rule. Officials are gonna T up anyone who touches the ball and says anything above a normal talking voice.
great perimeter D!
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
Great Defense by Chris Paul and Willie Green again to draw the offensive foul…and Aaron Brooks gets Tossed!!!
Indeed, and honestly...
we shouldn’t be that surprised. This is a solid roster – arguably equal to or better than the 07-08 roster. I just expected a longer gelling period, though it is still way early of course.
Come on Miami!
seems like a freebie game now. Really expected the Rockets to win and didn’t want the Hornets to possibly be 3-2 after Friday night.
Monty is my Hero right now…we are 4-0 and we are playing DEFENSE people…this is quite the turnaround
Lol
"I'm not a businessman, I'm a business, man" ~Jay-Z
"Life is such a roller coaster and then it drops, but what should I scream for this is my theme park" ~ 'Lil' Wayne
by OnPointLikeCP3 on Nov 3, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Close it out!
Go Hornets! And get Milwaukee since I’ll be there… Yesssssss!
"I'm not a businessman, I'm a business, man" ~Jay-Z
"Life is such a roller coaster and then it drops, but what should I scream for this is my theme park" ~ 'Lil' Wayne
Nice, 4-0 get Paul out of there right now!
"...never seem to get far enough, staying in between the lines, hold on—to what you can, waiting for the end, not knowing when, may the wind take your troubles away, may the wind take your troubles away, both feet on the floor, two hands on the wheel, may the wind take your troubles away...."
--Son Volt from the song "Windfall"
GET CP3 OUT!
"I'm not a businessman, I'm a business, man" ~Jay-Z
"Life is such a roller coaster and then it drops, but what should I scream for this is my theme park" ~ 'Lil' Wayne
Not Good guys CP3 is limping pretty good out there
by EaglesFanatic80 on Nov 3, 2010 10:01 PM CDT reply actions
I think I'm gonna puke
"I'm not a businessman, I'm a business, man" ~Jay-Z
"Life is such a roller coaster and then it drops, but what should I scream for this is my theme park" ~ 'Lil' Wayne
by OnPointLikeCP3 on Nov 3, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he is ok but man that scares the heck outta me…4-0 and he goes up for a meaningless rebound ugh
by EaglesFanatic80 on Nov 3, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
4-1 baby!
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Lol if we win that I will have to get really wasted that night
by EaglesFanatic80 on Nov 3, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
As much as I would love that...
…it aint going to happen.
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Haha Heat are good
Matchup well against us. (Just using reverse psychology…)
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Haha
Not looking forward to that matchup. But with the way we’re playing right now, a win is conceivable.
Looking forward to it
Will be interesting to see if CP3 and Emeka can take advantage of their matchups…
Impressive victory!
CP3 took over the game in the 4th quarter as usual. Defense continues to look solid, and Jason Smith can shoot that jumper!
CP3
Couldn’t watch the game, but followed you guys and watched it via gamecast.. is CP3 ok? He was limping?
Yeah, in the last seconds, he was fouled, and his brace on his left knee was knocked askew
Then he limped around for a while, but he looked like he was back to walking normally by the end of the game. We’ll have to keep an eye on it.
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- Evan Turner loves getting his butt kicked
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