Chris Paul Rumors are Flying
by Brian Ball on Jul 22, 2010 1:47 PM CDT
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PrintSo let's try to ground them a little. First, here's the Times-Pic:
Though New Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul has two years remaining on his contract before he can opt out, his new agent, Leon Rose, who also represents LeBron James, is currently gauging interest from various teams that could seek to obtain him in a trade, according to league sources.
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"No one from our camp has said that Chris demanded a trade,'' a source close to Paul said Thursday. "But they (Hornets) have not put themselves in position to win this season. We have the same team as last year, basically. The only thing that matters to Chris is winning.''
I'm sick of hearing about sources close to Paul. I hate this kind of vague innuendo. I wonder if this type of behavior started when Chris signed on to LRMR, or if it just seems more prevalent now.
But wait, ESPN says Chris Paul HAS A LIST!!!!! (Dun dun DAAAAH!!!!)
The New York Knicks are the first team on point guard Chris Paul's wish list of clubs he'd like New Orleans to trade him to, according to sources.
Orlando, where he could team with superstar center Dwight Howard, is the second team on Paul's list, which includes Dallas and then Portland, according to sources.
In the ideal scenario, Paul and the Denver Nuggets' Carmelo Anthony would wind up in New York to play alongside Amare Stoudemire, forming a big three that could compete with Miami's newly formed super trio of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.
"Those guys want to beat the three guys in Miami," a source close to the situation said. A report Wednesday on CBSSports.com said Paul saw what James did in signing to play alongside Wade and Bosh and has designs on doing something similar.
Yeah, so the wedding toast thing is back on the table. Fantastic. That list just sounds like an amalgamation of all the places that "sources" have already speculated might be destinations for Paul.
And Ball Don't Lie has an awesome post about the Chris Paul extravaplosion. Go over there and read it all.
It seems to me that the biggest problem with these rumors is that it's really tough to construct a fair trade between the Hornets and any of Chris Paul's suitors. Whenever I see fans proposing trades, they're always hilariously lopsided. "Here, give us the best point guard in the game, who very well could become the best point guard in the history of basketball, and in return, we offer a bag of potato chips. What's that? Not enough? What if we make them BBQ flavor?"
I hope that the Hornets' minty fresh management team at least understands the immense value of Chris Paul and demands a reasonable amount in return.
Still, I'm not sold on the veracity of these rumors. Every source that At the Hive has spoken to about Chris Paul has said that Chris wants to stay in New Orleans. So what's the truth? I see four options:
First, is this gamesmanship? Is Chris Paul trying to goad George Shinn into going above the luxury tax? That doesn't make sense; almost all the decent free agents have already signed.
Second, is this for real? Does Chris Paul really want to leave? That's entirely possible, although the only sources I've seen for this come through the national sports media, which tends to be hilariously wrong about almost everything.
Third, is this all blown out of proportion? That's entirely possible, as well, but if so, why doesn't Chris Paul just come out and quash the rumors?
Finally, is this a strange marketing ploy by the business geniuses at LRMR? That seems really likely to me, but it could be part of a larger "strategy" by those marketing savants that might include Chris Paul going to a bigger market or a better team.
I'm not sure what the truth is, or even if these are the only four options. Put your thoughts, opinions, ridiculous Chris Paul trade ideas, or suicide notes in the comments. If you see any more crazy-bones stories out there, make sure to FanShot them so I can promote them to the front page.
p.s. please, no suicide notes. That would make me even sadder.
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I Pick 3
I think CP3 might really be frustrated and maybe even said he wants out amongst friends as a joke or something or maybe even said like ‘If we do not win this season I might want out’ and one of said friends ran off and talked to some website and then all of this started.
I certainly hope it's 3
But if it is, then why hasn’t Chris Paul just tweeted, “Hey, I wanna stay in New Orleans.”
All he has said is “TOO BLESSED TO BE STRESSED…”
That’s really enigmatic, but it’s still a pretty awesome thing to say right now.
Brian....
maybe because he thinks if he allow these rumors to continue, it will continue to light a fire under the Hornets FO. If he really wants to stay in NOLA he’ll eventually have to say it but right now perhaps he thinks by keeping this rolling, they’ll not let up in showing they are committed to winning. All of this is just perhaps though.
LOL
at that picture with the darn Lebron logo in the background. SMH.
Here's an idea...
let him go to NY and then right after that, Carmelo signs his extension to stay with Denver. LOL!
Generic Chris Paul headline
National media basketball analyst: “Chris Paul says ‘perfectly content’ in New Orleans. TRADE SPECULATION GROWS!!!!!”.
At this point, I don’t think anything short of Chris Paul putting pen to paper on a contract extension right now would disrupt the media consensus that its a matter of “when” not “if” Paul leaves. What none of these stories do is come up with some plausible trade scenario that might actually tempt the Hornets to part with their franchise player. “Why yes, we do want to swap our prized point guard for some magic beans. That sounds like a perfectly fair trade.”
But hey, if Orlando wants to trade us Dwight Howard to get Paul, well, maybe we’ll listen to their offer…
#2 Sean Marks fan on the blogs
Hornets have kicked...
scouts Kip and Kelly Bass to the curb! LOL! Been a long time coming. Should’ve been did this.
Yeah, looks like Demps is cleaning house in the FO
He also got rid of Andrew Loomis, who (if I recall correctly) was director of Player Personnel, and Rob Werdann, an assistant coach last year.
QueenBee, is there a story behind the Basses?
Brian...
I’m not sure. All I know is it wasn’t hard to see the Hornets scouting department sucked. Everytime I hear their names I think about Hornets former GM Bob Bass. Are they Bob’s sons?
Article..
New Orleans, you don’t have to trade Chris Paul.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/new-orleans-you-dont-have-to-trade-chris-paul.php
Dell Demps...
in town meeting with Hornets right now according to Jim Eichenhofer.
New GM Dell Demps is being welcomed to New Orleans now, meeting Hornets staff members in downtown offices.
9 minutes ago via web
What's Next Regarding "The Demand?"
Ridiculous. I’ve been very upset with Chris Paul all summer long, to the point where I was even forced to engage in squabbles with fellow fans of the team I truly love, and Paul does nothing but prove me one hundred percent right.
I’m not here to be pessimistic. But if this were all just rumors and speculation, Paul could easily swipe it away. He won’t because this isn’t just rumors and speculation. Paul is nothing more than a follower and just as much of a clown as LeBron is and I feel like an idiot for thinking he was different from everyone else the last five years.
Coming off of that 2004/2005 season, I really saw lots of losing seasons in the future for the Hornets. Paul changed that. Paul gave Hornets fans legitimate hope for a championship that we haven’t had in forever. For him to bail out on us, too, gives me no hope as a fan of a small market team in the NBA.
"You play to win the game."
Admittedly
I’m coming around to your viewpoint as it’s impossible and silly to defend CP3 anymore.
However, I definitely don’t give up complete hope for small market teams. Just makes it seem like their windows are a lot smaller. Also, this definitely makes me respect players like Kevin Durant a ton more.
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Let's Be Honest Though, Red
No one was arguing that we should trade Chris Paul in 2008. We were a team on the rise, Paul was “one of the league’s truly nice guys” and two years later he’s a conglomerate demanding a trade from the team. We never know character until it’s faced with adversity and we’ve seen how LeBron and CP3 handle it.
I’d like to say that Durant is different but I thought Paul was different.
"You play to win the game."
by MrWayneKeller on Jul 22, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Durant's team...
wasn’t on the uprise he’d be doing the same thing. Don’t get it twisted. He’s happy right now so of course he’s not going to say anything like Chris is saying. But in 2 or 3 years if it looks like his team isn’t winning or making playoffs, I suspect he’d be doing the same thing.
Maybe
but you can’t deny how he has handled himself thus far.
He’s ALWAYS around the team (as evidenced by being in Vegas during summer league), always practicing and never ever causing a stink. Love how little fanfare there was when he announced he signed an extension.
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Right now ...
my thinking is until I hear or read something directly from Chris Paul saying that he wants to be traded, I’m not going to be a sheep and follow others. Sure, he hasn’t squashed rumors but like I said above to you Brian Ball, he could be doing this to keep the fire under the Hornets. He probably didn’t know how bad it would make him look in the process though.
And another thing....
I know a lot of people are mad with him but don’t send terrible things to his twitter right now. If he leaves, THEN trash the h*ll out of him on twitter but until we hear more from him, no need to help push him out the door.
My issue is
These rumors, have no doubt, are straight from the people he hired 2 weeks ago to represent him. Who you let talk for you is kind of telling, to me.
This is like the old “having your cake and eating it too”.. by not saying anything he tries to preserve his “nice” rep while his/LeBron’s people do the dirty work behind all of our backs. I can’t really approve of that way of doing business, you know?
http://hornetshype.com
by ticktock6 on Jul 22, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
+1
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Brian
but that’s part of the problem. There have been rumors all summer long regarding CP3 that he’s had soooo much opportunity to quell them with one significant statement.
I dunno, maybe the media is getting to me, but what does your gut tell you?
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My gut says "I think I wanna throw up"
Or maybe “I want a sandwich.” My gut is an inscrutable fellow.
lol Brian
always posting those jokester comments. You must be looking for recs haha
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
it was a pretty funny comment..........lqtm
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
"mark my words...we will draft 4 new linebackers this off-season" - 2010
We know nothing yet
LMRM or whatever was a poor decision, we’re all in agreement. But I think it’s ridiculous to turn on Chris Paul before he’s literally not done a single thing. 99% of guys in this league will not make comments when they’re talked about in the media. It’s standard NBA practice.
CP’s coming off a bad season, coming off a GM and two coaches being fired, and is watching the rest of the NBA improve. In my mind, this really has very little to do with market size (from CP’s perspective at least). It has everything to do with the team getting better or at least showing a desire to get better.
I agree...
that signing with those guys was a poor decision. It really makes him look like he doesn’t have a mind of his own. It’s like they’re some kind of goon squad or something. LOL.
So wait....
Allan Houston is the front runner to become the Knicks’ GM? Yeah, I’m sure there will be tons of winning over there.
Paul Wants To Leave New Orleans
Because they’re not “contending” but the Knicks are supposedly at the top of his list. Terrific. Maybe if the Hornets didn’t care about winning for three seasons, shred tons of payroll, were completely outmatched on the court and were players for one free agency they’d be considered contenders.
"You play to win the game."
by MrWayneKeller on Jul 22, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah
utterly confused as to why the Knicks are number 1. No way CP3 is all about winning – otherwise he’d go elsewhere – ORL, POR or even DAL. Instead he wants his own super 3. COPYCAT!
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The Stupid Thing Is
The Knicks have been players for free agency for so long that they don’t have any players to offer in trades for Paul and Carmelo. The entire idea is stupid. Maybe, MAYBE, they can get one of them but there’s no chance they’d get both. New Orleans and Denver will both be stubborn and request a lot and they should. They don’t owe it to Paul, Melo the city of New York or the league to give in to this. If everyone is looking out for themselves and their family, then the Hornets should do the same damn thing. It’s one thing for Paul to request a trade but for him to try and dictate who they trade him to is a damn sickening thing.
I guess all of us Hornets fans join Julius Hodge as people who Chris Paul has hit below the belt.
"You play to win the game."
by MrWayneKeller on Jul 22, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol
I bet if I watched that replay again, I’d have a different opinion of him now. :)
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Not me because...
It’s obvious Julius Hodge is a jerk. The guy was probably being a jerk running off at the mouth when he was shot too.
That was a dumb...
kid mistake Paul did back then. It’s not like he goes around punching guys in the groin each and every season.
Oh I know
being sarcastic more than anything…
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Julius Hodge
made a comment about CP’s grandfather, who’d just been assassinated. Bad decision to punch Hodge, but totally understandable. Man, I really hate to see Paul being dragged through the mud like this, but like ticktock mentioned, the LMRM thing kinda warrants it.
Exactly!
That’s why i posted those trade ideas down below to teams that are NOT on his list. If he wants to be traded I would never send him to where HE wants to go. Why would I do you a favor if you’re not even my friend or a part of this team anymore?
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
I could actually see....
Monty telling Demps to not send him where HE wants to go. He supposedly lobbied for Monty and then wants to up and leave him? Heck, no. If I’m Monty, I’m going to burn you too. Not saying that Monty wouldn’t have come without Paul because he may have been just that anxious to get his first head coaching job but don’t send for me dude and then leave. Nah, it ain’t goin down like that. LOL.
Haha Monty is WAY too nice for that
Not saying he’d be so nice to avoid getting the best deal, but I can’t see him pissing off CP just for fun haha.
What if
the trade fell through. oooooooooooh
by OnPointLikeCP3 on Jul 22, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't write off the Knicks
As a Knick fan I can tell you that we naturally covet Paul but unlike the last ten years we have some attractive assets (Gallinari,Wilson Chandler, Anthony Randolph)this year that could make a trade feasible. Eddy Curry our 6’11" fat ass immobile center’s $11million contract comes off the books this year. If Carmello opts out of his extension you can bet the farm, or whatever it is you people bet down there, that he will be in New York next year. Taking Okifor and his $55 million back as part of a deal could be attractive to your management who have a reputation for frugality. I would hate to see the Knicks gut their new team to get any single player. Even one as transcendent as Paul cannot get the job done alone. In any case I hope Paul stays with you guys for a couple of more years and we Knicks pick him up when his contract expires. However, those dirtbags at LMRM are most assuredly the ones stirring this pot so you never really know, do you?
Those guys are crap compared to CP3.
Portland is offering crap, but certainly much better than those NY “backups on a good team” guys.
Same with Orlando and the Mavericks.
They can all offer better stuff to NO than pitiful New York can.
But it is all still crap compared to Chris Paul when he isn’t injured & pouting.
In Bayless I trust.
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I agree compared to cp3 most players are crap
. But Okafor for Curry is plus $44 million and that is not crap.
Yeah. If Paul is traded NY has to hope Shinn is as stingy as advertised.
And the other teams in the running have to hope Shinn likes to win basketball games.
In Bayless I trust.
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re: "likes to win basketball games."
(…but doesn’t like to win them so much that he figures out a way to keep Chris Paul.)
In Bayless I trust.
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Truehoop
Not sure if anyone saw this TrueHoop article yet but here it is:
http://espn.go.com/blog/TrueHoop/post/_/id/18494/the-hornets-feel-the-pressure
Trail Blazers trade offer
It was said during or right before the NBA draft this year that Portland made an offer for Chris Paul. Wonder if their discussions with the Hornets will heat back up.
The Blazers had offered 14 Million in expiring contracts between two players (Andre Miller & Joel Pryzbilla) in addition Blazers would send Nicolas Batum and Jerryd Bayless to the Hornets for Paul.
I have to think we shouldn't be after expirings
As much as people all think we should. Expirings are for people to sign free agents with, essentially. Without Paul, we have nothing to entice them with. They won’t come. Or we’ll have to overpay, which is how we got in this exact situation. This is a realistic view.
IMO we should only look at teams offering several solid young pieces, under contract.
http://hornetshype.com
Blazers
Well in regards to the Blazers offer you’d get both. You’d get salary relief which I beleive the Hornets must have because they can’t add salary due to the potential new ownership. With the Blazers as trading partners you’d get the 14 million in expiring contracts plus Portland has a slew of young talent they could send to New Orleans such as: Batum, Bayless, Rudy Fernandez, Dante Cunningham etc…
I’m a Blazer fan so the thought of getting Chris Paul is obviously exciting. I dont think the Knicks have anything the Hornets would want and neither do the Magic. I think if its between the 4 teams meantioned (Mavs, Blazers, Magic, and Knicks) that only the Mavs and the Blazers have the goods to offer the Hornets.
There is a rumor that this offer could be in discussion. It would be a steep price for both teams, so it could make sense.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2a9q4o7 (plus rights to Joel Freeland – a good young PF playing in Spain – and a first round pick)
I haven't looked over too many trade rumors myself
But that would seem like an awful lot of talent/value coming back to NOLA, compared to what I’ve seen.
As a Trailblazer fan I would love to have Paul on the court with Roy-Oden and LaMarcus........
but I would hate to lose Nicolas Batum who I am sure Monty would demand because he worked with this kid and sees his potential as the closest thing to Scottie Pippen since Pippen was playing in Portland.
Out of all the teams that Paul has put on his list “WHO I WILL NOT BELIEVE UNTIL I HEAR IT COME FROM PAUL HIMSELF” Portland has the most to offer in expiring contracts and young talent. Whoever trades for Paul has to take Okafors contract as well but Paul Allen might be the richest owner in the league and does not mind throwing money around if he has a chance to compete for a title.
New York has Tony Douglas and maybe Galinari and maybe a 1st rd pick if they did not trade it to Phoenix for Amare. I don’t see NY taking Okafor’s contract to get Paul plus they do not have the younf talent that NO would want or the salary relief NO would demand.
The Lakers is complete BS, they signed Steve Blake to a 16 million $ contract to back up Fish.
Would the Hornets be willing to take Jameer Nelson for Paul……..there is no way in hell that happens plus they don’t have the room to take on Okafor’s contract as well.
If the Hornets and Blazers make a trade, you can look for your new HC to try and pick Portlands young talent and bring it down to the NO. Bayless would be a good fit for the Hornets, he could back up both Collison and Thornton and Batum is young and talented and will be an All-Star maybe this coming season. Alot of NBA teams have tried to trade for Batum and been turned away. This trade could work for both teams and makes alot of sense…………..with that said it will not happen because of this group that Paul has signed his career over to. They are pretty much trying to dictate where the FA superstars are going to sign and bullying the managment into their terms.
Kenneth Lewis Moore
by lightskin350 on Jul 22, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Lakers trade machine
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
essentially a Bynum for Paul swap plus the Lakers take back Okafor’s albatross of a contract that the Hornets don’t want anymore. Sasha’s contract is done after next year.
Cuz he's...
a bag of ranch potato chips.
by QueenBee on Jul 22, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lakers don't really need Okafor either
what’s worse? 3 yrs/$5mil of Walton or 4 yrs/$11.5 mil of Okafor and the Hornets could buy Walton out if they want to.
Haha but the lakers are getting the best point guard in the league
And we’re getting Andrew Bynum. Probably makes more sense for us to ship the lakers Posey instead and just leave Walton out of the equation.
More interestingly, what function would Chris Paul have in the triangle offense? Wouldn’t that be just a terrible fit for him?
Pauls talented enough to play in any system but...
It would be a waste of his full potential to put him in the triangle. I’d also have to hate him and I don’t want to do that
Dang the Lakers don't have many players under contract at all
Kinda makes a trade hard and technically leaves Lakers without a Center unless they can take Okafor.
What about Okafor and Collison for Bynum? If I’m lakers I’d think seriously about it. Bynum has higher upside. Okafor is a rock in terms of health and does exactly what they need (rebound and block shots). They don’t need another post scorer.
Problem with that
is that the Lakers need another young stud to take the place of Kobe when he’s done and is Collison that person?
if everybody thinks..
Collinson can take over for cp3, then why can’t he take over for Kobe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde
At this point they are thinking about now, not the future
Kobe is 32, Gasol is turning 30, Odom, Artest are 30/31. They got a 3 year window to continue winning.
No one would deny Bynum in terms of upside has most of the trio. But his health is such a risk, that getting perhaps a less talented more reliable (For there needs) big AND a PG who would fit there system perfectly (open threes all day, doesn’t NEED the ball like say CP3 would demand it)
I don't bother with all that
trade machine stuff because as a fan, I have no say at all where a player ends up. It’s silly.
by QueenBee on Jul 22, 2010 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
On the plus side
It’s an easy way to make sure that Fletcher Mackel’s trade proposals are, in fact, impossible.
Oh for heavens sake...
I’d like to punch Fletcher Mackel in his face. Does he think he’s some kind of ESPN wannabee comedian writer?
So...New York is his best place to win this season?
That makes perfect sense. If he wants to tank I hope they keep him for two full years. At least Baron Davis was an ass because that’s who he is, I can live with that. But what an absurd attitude for an alleged professional and good person.
OMG BEST TRADE EVARRRR
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2dm6usd
CP3 has no choice where he gets traded, right? If he really wants to leave, then this is the deal that needs to be done.
It makes us a better team PLUS it pisses him off.
Love it lol
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
Oh hey... um...
I actually think Granger is a good trade. Haha. Wow. And LMAO at the -7 wins too
http://hornetshype.com
It's definitely a good trade
but not gonna happen.
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
Got another one!
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=23fy6bc
David Kahn LOVES him some point guards!
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
AND ANOTHER ONE!
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=28e8459
The Grizz are going all in, hoping their new BIG 3 of Rudy Gay, CP3, and Zach Randolph can win it all!
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
Haha, so the funny thing about these
Is that since the Hornets only have 12 players on the roster, we can actually trade CP3 for four other players and we’d be carrying 15 players, the max.
Disclaimer: I am still an ardent follower of the Church of Paul and I in no way, shape, or form am suggesting we should trade him.
I'm in your boat with the disclaimer
but since the national media gets to be crazy, why cant I?
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
My favorite one so far
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2a2ytdp
-30 wins for Sac-Town lololololol
I had no idea it was possible to win a negative amount of games
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
Running out of ideas you guys
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2f4sbuo
requesting assistance!
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
Nothing has happened yet
All this hate and knocking his character when nothing has happened yet! I like Chris Paul, I think he truly loves New Orleans. Hopefully he is just trying to light a fire under new management to make some moves. It is working..IMO
And I disagree that this is making him look bad. Players pull this kind of stuff all the time to get what they want. Nothing wrong with that..just hope that what he wants is to stay in NO!
Pretty much...
what my thoughts are auburner. A lot of people are reading other forums and becoming SHEEP right now before they’ve even heard from Chris Paul. They figure because he hasn’t come out and squashed the rumors than they all MUST BE true. Not necessarily though. And I’m not being naive but I like hearing from both parties before I make my decision.
It would be a bad idea to trade him
I don’t know if he’s really wanting out or using the threat of wanting out to spur the front office into action.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
I agree...
Ace Venom. For all we know he may be speaking on West’s behalf too. LOL! Unless he wants West gone. I doubt that though.
Trade with Portland
A trade with Portland can be very beneficial to the Hornets, especially now that Chris Paul REALLY wants out of New Orleans. Portland has the most young talent in the NBA pretty much (OKC is a close 2). I checked the numbers and this trade would work.
Portland gets: Chris Paul and James Posey
Hornets get: Rudy Fernandez, Andre Miller, and Marcus Camby
This would give the Hornets some rebounding and blocks and get rid of Posey. Andre Miller would also be a badass backup PG.
Let me know what you think
I'd like to hear Paul say...
he REALLY wants out of NOLA. Why can’t this be done?
You seriously think he could stay?
He signed with LeBrons management for one reason and one reason only. He wants out of New Orleans and they are apparently the management to do that.
Well why won't he...
just come out and say he wants to be traded? Kobe did it. He didn’t need anyone to say it for him. If CP3 is the star that everyone thinks he is, he has a voice that people would like to hear.
Its pretty simple actually...
1) He would get fined by the NBA
2) That is not how his new management works. They work in secrecy behind closed doors using the media as their weapons for their respective clients. If you weren’t living under a rock the past few months you would have seen the same thing with LeBron James.
Kobe got fined?
I don’t remember. If he wants out that badly let him say it. LRMRLOL probably won’t have any problems paying the fine for him.
This proposal is a joke
In essence, you’re getting the best PG who will be around for years and you’re ONLY taking Posey (instead of Okafor)
In return, we get old Miller – no need for him we have DC. He’s old and argumentative if he’s not starting. Camby – still older and has to be on his last legs. Fernandez a question mark NBA player still.
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Well we still need a center to have a somewhat decent squad
Thats why we get rid of Posey. Andre Miller had a great season last year and would be an amazing backup PG/ great veteran influence on DC. Fernandez has the potential to be a beast in a new system. Do I have to say anything about Camby? He’s always a defensive player of the year nominee and could get some rest with Okafor on the squad still. So age wouldn’t play too much of a factor for andre miller or marcus camby.
the lakers could offer the best of any other team in my opinion. but i don’t think they are a candidate to trade.
they could get andrew bynum who is on the verge of becoming the best (and true) center in the nba. and still only 23 years old. they could also offer both their rookes: ebanks and caracter, both of whom are being praised as second round steals, and/or 2 future first round picks.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
this whole thing is about as cool as cancer
i just have a terrible feeling that if he does want to get traded, were going to end up giving him away for practically nothing
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 22, 2010 4:10 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone want to come up with CP to Knicks trade proposals?
Gonna be on NY radio this evening, need some “fair” trades to suggest haha
There Are None
In all honesty.
"You play to win the game."
by MrWayneKeller on Jul 22, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
The basic problem is this: the Knicks are under the cap, so they can’t go over the tax. That means we can only send them CP3, we can’t ship them Emeka or Posey.
And if we just send them CP3, they have nothing but shitty players, so they’d have to send us four shitty expiring contracts and a bunch of draft picks. It would pretty much be the Hornets blowing up their team and starting over again.
the Knicks are under the cap, so they can’t go over the tax. That means we can only send them CP3, we can’t ship them Emeka or Posey.
Link for this? Trade Machine okays putting Posey or Okafor through to NY, and I can’t find anything in the CBA outlawing it. Probably missing something..
Haha, no, my bad. That was stupid.
Should have said we’d have to take an obscene number of shitty players.
Since the Knicks only have one player under a big contract, we’d have to take a ton of terrible players were we to send them Okafor. I think we’d have to take a minimum of 5 players.
With Posey, it’d only be two players.
Um...
We trade CP3 for King Kong, the Empire State Building, George Steinbrenner’s corpse, Toney Douglas, and 10,000 hot dog vendors. We can throw in James Posey as well.
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
If I want a divorce...
I’m going to let my partner know first. I’m not going to give the lawyers the glory of getting to do it. Perhaps that’s just me though.
When does the schedule....
come out? I’m ready for the season. With or without Chris Paul. I’d prefer to have him but hey, it won’t be the end of the world without him. If most of our fans are bandwagoners that jumped on when Chris Paul arrived and the team started winning, then I guess if he goes we won’t be seeing you there.
Oh and...
yayy!!! to the Saints for re-signing Bobby McCray. I’m ready to see more hard hits.
I saw dat!
Deal re-structuring obviously.
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
Of course...
Spike would say just about anything to get CP3 in NY. The dude has been desperate for a mighty long time now. Hahaa!
Mystikal
Wants CPE in New Orleans.
"You play to win the game."
by MrWayneKeller on Jul 22, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
CP3
Excuse me.
"You play to win the game."
by MrWayneKeller on Jul 22, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Or Joe The Plumber
"You play to win the game."
by MrWayneKeller on Jul 22, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Has Everyone Else Noticed
All these articles from outside people trying to talk Hornets basketball is so infuriating. I now know how someone like the president of the United States must feel when they read regular people talking politics. It’s so stereotypical, generic, uninformed and false.
"You play to win the game."
Yes indeedy...
most didn’t even know there was a man named Chouest that is minority owner until the announcement of the sale surfaced. But if you ask most of them, they know all about Hornets basketball.
Outside perspective
I can’t blame CP3 for being frustrated as the state of the hornets is a worse version of Cleveland. you get a bonafide superstar and simply does not have pieces around him.
On the flipside, I absolutely do not want him to leave or form a super team as it’s just disgusting.
I have a question for you Hornets fans. Any chance New Orleans gets there act together, turns Peja’s MONSTER expiring (plus perhaps Collison) into some talent from a team looking to rebuild? Maybe Indiana gives you Granger + something? (first example off top of my head)
Those kinds of trades have been discussed for a while
Seems unlikely that we’d pull the trigger anytime soon – we are in the process of totally overhauling the FO right now, so I don’t expect any news in the next couple of weeks.
My Q is more...
Will Nw Orleans pay for that? Approaching the Luxury tax etc.
Reports are you won’t and as a Warriors fan I know how that feels (though we got new ownership and I have renewed faith)
I have early faith...
in Dell Demps. If the meeting on Monday comes out with Paul saying he wants to leave, then the FO should take their own sweet time.
Read my post above...
on what could be a possibility of why he may not do this. Just a possibility.
When was it...
that CP3 said he’d be open to a trade if the Hornets aren’t committed to winning? 2, 3 weeks ago? If he doesn’t give the team a chance to do things (which actually quite a few things have been done albeit most of them within the front office, it’s a start, a good one imo) and wants to bolt, then I will not wish him any luck anywhere. I don’t care how many courts he’s dedicated around the city. Dat’s right. LOL.
Check this out.
NBA Trade Machine works our with this trade.
Best trade available if you ask me.
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
by LocoSaint on Jul 22, 2010 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
http://i32.tinypic.com/1zm339e.jpg
Visit that link for a bigger picture.
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
I sure hope so! lol
I worked really hard on that!
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
Wow, that's a gold star right there
I think my favorite part is that George Steinbrenner’s Corpse is paid way more than the Empire State Building.
that guy is hilarious..........
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
"mark my words...we will draft 4 new linebackers this off-season" - 2010
If any of you...
guys have a question about cap and tax and all that stuff and if you have a twitter account, tweet your questions to Larry Coon. He’s the guru of this stuff.
Very interesting....
Larry Coon put on his twitter the same trade scenario I put into the trade machine
Bynum, Vujacic, Walton for CP3 and Okafor
He also....
held a contest for the worst legal CP3 trade. LOL!
You sure would...
Loco Saint. I don’t know what the prize was but yeah, you would’ve had it on lock. LOL!
This guy just got turned back
by Rich Paul (who I think works for LMRLOL) in his hopes that CP would go to the Lakers and then had the audacity to tweet this bull…
RT @TheyCallMeZo: Waitin 2 c when people will blame LRMR 4 Chris Pauls decision 2 bounce " You Right! They hate to see ppl better themselves
This is the reason why these ppl suck so much
He can’t “decide” to bounce. If the Hornets contribute to the league heading in this direction by letting it be controlled more and more by groupies and idiots, I’m not going to be able to bring myself to watch.
http://hornetshype.com
Wowwww...
anyone think CP3 should see this? LOL!
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Chris-Paul-LeBron-James-turning-NBA-into-league-of-quitters
I don't agree with this part....
“Then there is the unsettled ownership situation. Shinn is in the midst of completing the sale of the team to minority owner Gary Chouest, who might be more willing to deal Paul and start over than Shinn has been.”
I think Chouest would be more inclined to keep CP3. That goes to show that not many know much about Chouest.
i love chris paul. best pg in the nba. i want to see balance in the nba. i don’t see why the hornets can’t build around him. i hope during the meeting the hornets’ management can convince paul to stay.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
the nba should run leon rose and his cronies out of the nba.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
Hahaha!
‘cronies’. Yup, that would be them.
Who to kick out of the NBA
Maverick Carter
Leon Rose
“King” James
Add your own.
by OnPointLikeCP3 on Jul 22, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
The media is just hellbent on getting Chris Paul traded.
And so far, they might be succeeding.
This is what....
I’ve been saying. It’s like they’re trying to do some kind of a ‘media forced trade’. I think they want CP3 out more than HE actually wants out. This I feel. One reason is because they’ve been talking about it for a long long time now. More than anything we’ve ever heard from him. Even when he was with Octagon.
I've said it before...
and I’ll say it again. The media will probably never give CP3 an MVP award as long as he’s in NOLA.
btw, just got a pair of cp3 size 14’s. the most comfortable sneaker i’ve ever worn. feels like im walking on pillows.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
Totally agree
Personally I think they look ugly, but they’re the most comfortable shoes I’ve ever worn
And let me guess....
they sounded pretty convinced that his destination will be NY right?
i was hearing espn radion in l.a. they had some dude from Entertainment (magazine), Ben (something) who is a die-hard knicks fan. the guy was salivating over paul. i think these so called “super teams” are bad for the nba. very bad.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
Knicks fans have been...
salivating over any big named player for years now.
some portland radio reports a deal includes
cp3 and okafor
for
oden, batum, miller, rudy, a euro prospect, and a first round pick
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
its source is this
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 22, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahaha
Fletcher Mackel is a legend around these parts for coming up with thoroughly ridiculous trades. They have no sources, he’s just a crazy person who runs a website and is a sports anchor at a local TV station. Just a heads-up, wading into the ridiculousness of the New Orleans media is a daunting task.
thanks for ruining my dreams
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 22, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, sorry man
Not saying it’s not possible. It’s just that the Mackel comes up with multiple blockbuster trades per day just for fun. Strange dude.
Please tell me....
Travers is smarter. LOL!
would you do that deal?
i think most blazer fans would be hesitant to trade oden
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 22, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Not Only That
Why would the Hornets take on Andre Miller and stunt the growth of Darren Collison, who’s emerge and purported rise to stardom is said to lessen the blow of losing Chris Paul? That makes no sense. I could see Oden, Batum, Bayless, Rudy and the Euro guy and then the Hornets may listen.
"You play to win the game."
by MrWayneKeller on Jul 22, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
andre is an expiring contract
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 22, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't the Hornets...
have a few expirings of their own?
Is that a legitimate source though?
Looks to me like Fletcher Mackel is just spitballing.
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
Which is what he's been...
doing for quite some time now. Like I said earlier, he’s an ESPN Wannabee Comedian.
If I'm Monty...
I have Monty tell Demps to get Roy from the Blazers in any CP3 trades. How’s that?
Then the Blazers wouldn't do that.
That would defeat the purpose of a trade in the first place, for all parties involved. Paul wouldn’t want to play on a Blazers team with no Roy on it.
Right but....
everyone is hoping to get the Hornets all-star, top 5 player in the league, MVP runner up, 3 time All-Star, for their role players. People want to keep their star and want to take another teams star as well.
Dude, Fletcher Mackel is retarded
Have you read this?
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
i take it you hornet fans arnt to big on the deal?
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 22, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I like it
I would definitely consider it if CP3 had to be traded, but because it’s coming from that guy it just makes it more unlikely.
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
as a blazer fan, I am not too high on trading oden
before he got hurt, he was the teams best player
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 22, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
But remember who you're getting in return
Superstar players have a very steep pricetag. They can’t be had without throwing something in to sweeten the pot.
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
See? That's what I'm talking about...
people want other teams to give up their star players but want to be able to keep theirs.
Exactly
It just isn’t gonna happen like that. Front offices in this league aren’t cupcakes anymore. They’re going to play hardball and not just take all your crappy players in a salary dump, they’re looking to improve too.
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
This is what I'm counting on...
with Demps as GM. He’s come from a team that knows how to work AND win.
If the Trail Blazers fail to get Chris Paul because of Greg Oden...
I will probably laugh myself to death. That is the funniest thing ever.
Personally...
Im not big on ANY deal, no matter how much we get in return… until its shown that CP is actually demanding a trade and that the Hornets will actually consider giving it to him, this is all moot to me.
I agree...
you know people looooooove playing armchair GM though.
Definitely
And that’s cool. But from a personal perspective, I considered all proposed CP trades ridiculous before, and will continue to for the time being.
Here is what I think happens
Paul remains on the roster the foreseeable future. The Hornets win anywhere from 45-55 games in the upcoming season (hoping for the 55ish of course) and have a decent playoff showing. That momentarily quells all this stuff, and for a while you’ll see talk wondering whether the hornets have turned it around, etc…. though certainly the media will still try to push the issue to an extent… particularly near the trade deadline and during the offseason.
The real test will be the 11-12 season. If the hornets can show progress, maybe get in the 50-60 or even 60+ wins range (depending on good front office moves), and make an impressive run in the playoffs (probably Conf. Finals or bust at that point, at the least – doubt 1st/2nd round will be enough, but who knows), then the chances of retaining Chris will be fairly solid. It won’t be a sure thing, far from it, but I would feel good about it.
This is of course, all assuming that Chris will be patient and that the current reports are… if not wholly falsified, then greatly exaggerated. I’m not going to assume anything about Chris and what he wants, because I dont know… none of us really do except for those who are truly close to him. If the reports are true… then it would certainly make me lose some respect for Chris, showing this kind of impatience would be pretty distasteful. But we don’t know his real thoughts and motivations… and until we do CP will remain the same old CP in my eyes.
by Caleb462 on Jul 22, 2010 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Great post...
Caleb462. This all would be great.
Okay y'all
I’m making a trade machine pic, just like loco saint. Loved the idea. anyone to send to the hornets? I have two slots left. Thanks.
I have many leatherbound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
No Magic Trades huh?
Everyone is showing trades for everyone but the Magic. Well here is one of my Magic trades with a 3rd team involved. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=26dqu7u
In a trade with the Magic.
Would NO be able to trade Jameer this season before the trade deadline if they got him. They could get value back from him. He would be a good trade asset.
So I woke this morning...
Only to find all of this crap…Lovely.
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
Yeah...
I’m not angry anymore…really quite depressed. I can’t help but think that something big is about to happen.
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
Jameer
I keep hearing that Hornet fans keep saying that they have Darren Collisen and don’t need Jameer. If Magic do trade with NO, then why can’t NO trade Jameer before the trade deadline? I am sure that they can find a team that could use a starting point guard. He would be a valuable asset to them, and they might be able to get a better value for him being right before the trade deadline. Some teams are bound to have injuries, or they are missing a quality point guard to get them that over the hump.
I think at the end of the day..
The front office is really the ones who have to do the work to not only create a winner but keep CP3 excited about New Orleans prospects.. I’m really hoping that Monty’s kindness and professionalism gets through to Chris. I am hoping that Demps’ vision and assertivness creates an opportunity to create a contender. I know we can get a superstar over the next year (with these expirings), it’s just whether Chris knows it or not.
Everyone has reached the conclusion that CP3 is leaving. You know, he may, but he hasn’t given the Hornets any chance to bring in top level talent. Lebron gave the Cavs several years to bring in talent and they couldn’t, why can’t Chris do that?
If I was to say something to Chris right now it would be this, “Don’t listen to Lebron, don’t listen to your groupies, listen to yourself, give New Orleans a chance to make something, you owe it to the franchise that drafted you, don’t pull a Lebron and leave the team high and dry.”
The front office has all the chips. I am hoping that they keep these chips (Chris Paul) and don’t let anyone else touch them.
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
How many of those circus clowns...
are going to be sitting there with him?
So Grayson or anyone else...
that may know the answer. When Chris said at his golf tourney that he would be open to a trade if the appeared the Hornets weren’t committed to winning, did he say a huge move had to be made in 10 days or something? It starts with the front office and we are in the midst of changing the front office. The front office are the ones to put things in place. They are getting in place so they will be able to do more. I’m just wondering if he gave them a time frame of 1 wk, 2 wks. ???
No
But I think the tone of his voice suggested he wanted something done in THIS free agency. I don’t know if Paul realises though that we didn’t have much cap-space at the time. If the guy would be a little more patient (for a year) then we could go after Melo.
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
Next move CP makes is...
he’ll kick Jordan Brand to the curb and go straight up NIKE.
I really dislike what the national media is saying about the Hornets organization
Sure it’s not great, but they’re beating the hell out of them. Totally unjustified and it makes us look really bad. I truly have a passionate hate for the media.
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
Yeah...
I’ve been having a passionate hate for them for quite a while now. I don’t even want to read or listen to anything. I’m just hanging out here and 247.
You can hang out
on my site if you want. We hate them too. But we are mostly taking a summer break from all this and not posting. I’m too depressed. :-P
http://hornetshype.com
ticktock
I miss your frequent pissed off blog posts. They brought so much joy and laughter to my day :,(
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
I bought a house.
It ate my life. I’m sure I’ll be back when actual basketball starts. I have no patience for all this nonsense really.
http://hornetshype.com
Rohan
If CP leaves, your new picture has got to be a 50/50 head of Marcus Thornton and Peja. PLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEE?
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
What happened to...
A Collison trade for like Granger?
Collison and Peja for like Granger and a back-up PG.
Maybe that wouldn’t satisfy CP, but at this point not much will.
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
I think at this point
The only point guard to get traded would be CP3. DC MUST stay here because if Chris stays for the short term and we don’t win a championship in two years he’s gone for sure.
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
Yeah true.
I just thought at the beginning of the offseason that Collison would more likely go than CP…boy was I wrong.
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
We all were
The NBA is so screwed up man. If I were you I’d definitely stick to the NFL and the epic Australian rules football. I’ve seen that stuff on late night ESPN, I love it lol
"I am in a glass case of emotion!" - Cavs Owner Dan Gilbert
Yeah..
I love my Falcons more than the Hornets. I’m not a big AFL fan, more of a Rugby fan. Cause I live in Sydney it was awesome when they (The Swans) won the premiership.
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
Welcome to the world
of the Toronto Raptors
Damon Stoudamire, Tracy McGrady, Chauncey Billups, Vince Carter, Antonio Davis… and to a lesser degree Chris Bosh.
It sucks ass…. what happened to the days when you honored your contracts? God damn if I didn’t do that I’d never get a job again.
by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jul 22, 2010 10:16 PM CDT reply actions
Oh yes
The Raptors have had the full brunt of it. Could you imagine if someone brought a title to Canada, that’d be awesome.
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
What surprizes me
is that no one has tried to sign josh howard and tmac i know the injury history but both are perrenial allstars
What kind of contracts are they demanding?
Because their ego’s couldn’t handle getting the veteran’s minimum.
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
Yea
ur right and i think one of the losers of the lebronstakes will grab them but if the hornets could trade for someone with the peja contract and 10 million dolla exception they have they should get someone if not it will show to paul they are not trying and i would understand why hes upset
Brian Ball...
as figured, the Basses are indeed sons of former Hornet GM Bob Bass.
Kip and Kelly Bass are the sons of former Hornets executive vice president of basketball operations and general manager Bob Bass, who retired after the 2003-04 season. Kip and Kelly worked in the Hornets’ scouting department when the franchise was located in Charlotte, N.C.
http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2010/07/new_orleans_hornets_scouts_kip.html
I think paul needs to set everything straight
and I hope he does after the meeting he has with dell and monty if he is leaving he needs to come out and say it if he wants to stay he needs to say it and stop being a b**** hiding behind LMRM or wateva it is called
sd3...
I’m pretty sure we should know everything by Monday. Heck we may even know before Monday if he decides to come out and say something earlier. But either way, I think by Monday we’ll know whatever we need to know.
If i was the Hornets, I'd trade him.
You guys have a great PG behind Paul, Darren Collison is future superstar, I think he’ll be an all-star for a long time, he has 20+/10+ ability, and most importantly he has the talent to be the franchise cornerstone. Last season, Collison averaged 19 and 9 in the games he started. Those are great numbers for anybody, let alone a rookie. And yes, it’s a smaller sample size but he did put up better numbers than Paul did in his rookie year.
And the other part of the equation is Paul himself. People have to remember this is not a sign and trade situation, and he does not have a no trade clause. So his “list” with those contending teams is meaningless, he can be traded to the Clippers or Toronto or Minnesota or wherever else the Hornets choose. He should be traded to a team that can offer the best complimentary pieces to put around Collison and at the same time the franchise can offload a bad contract along with Paul.
In some ways the Hornets find themselves in the same position as the Cavs. Some roster mistakes during your best players early years means you can’t go all the way in the near future and now it looks like that star wants to go. But unlike the Cavs, you guys have Paul under contract so you can trade him wherever you like, and also unlike the Cavs you guys have another young guy with the ability to take over the team and lead it all the way one day.
#1 LBJ and A-Rod fan
Haters gonna hate.
Um
Darren Collison, rookie: 16.5 PER, 3.0 FTA/36, 32.9% AST, 18.9% TOV, 105 ORtg
Chris Paul, rookie: 22.1 PER, 6.0 FTA/36, 38.2% AST, 13.7% TOV, 114 ORtg
They’re pretty much playing different sports.
People look at...
Collison’s numbers and think he is Chris Paul. The Hornets went 14-23 in 37 games with Collison as a starter. Collison had a nice rookie season but if anyone looks at his numbers and think he can do for the Hornets what Chris Paul did, then they just don’t know what they are talking about. Just about everyone that isn’t a Hornets fan comes running in here talking about how the Hornets should trade Chris Paul. It’s not only the media that wants Paul out of NOLA. Not by a long shot.
Of course Paul was a whole lot more efficient as a rookie. He came into the league as a much more polished player. There is a reason he was drafted 4th and Collison was drafted 21st. I just think Collison proved in his time as a starter that in the long term he can be a special player.
#1 LBJ and A-Rod fan
Haters gonna hate.
Oh no
Here’s a smug Heat fan telling us what is good for us…It was only a matter of time.
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
I’m not telling you what is good for you. I was just giving my opinion. I wasn’t trying to be smug, I apologize if it came across that way. I just think the team’s window has passed with Paul, and that the Hornets have a bright future if they build around Collison. No doubt a lot of people disagree with me.
#1 LBJ and A-Rod fan
Haters gonna hate.
Haha
‘Salright. But I think Paul is in a whole different level to Collison. Paul is a top 5 player, Collison a solid starter. Collison I think has very small potential, like his ceiling is quite low. Paul’s fiestyness and overall play is on a hall-of-fame level.
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
He's not a Heat fan...
He’s an LBJ bandwagoner. Trust me, I’ve had dealings with him. His former account, up until July 9th, was ‘CavsLeBronFan’.
Kobe Bryant's no Michael Jordan. Kobe Bryant is Kobe Bryant.
"Lebron joins teams with his friends; Kobe’s enemies join teams with him." - Gil Meriken
by Saurav A. Das on Jul 23, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
i know I'm new here
Listen up! I’m demanding that someone move my friges. I have two that need to go. I demand that someone move them. I have them in my garage and you only have to move a few things to clear a path. I don’t have a dolly, but I have faith in you. You can make it happen.
I pay my parish taxes, so you’ll have no flack at the dump even if you aren’t local. Just tell them the rules don’t matter because it’s for me and I said, and you must quote, “It’s cool.”
Now, I have nothing in the world to do if you refuse, but I may just not post here anymore . . .
(This is been brought to you by The People for All Sarcasm, All the Time . . .)
Hahahah
Terrific. Didn’t get a chance to say hi earlier… so welcome!
At first, I was going to go tell you to go #@% yourself. But then, the commissioner (of the fridge union) slipped me a crisp $100 and told me to move your fridges all the way to New York. He really is a nice man, that commissioner.
You
Hornets fans are getting screwed right now. I’m sorry that Chris Paul no longer sees your franchise as viable but Darren Collison is a baller and should be fine for you. Keep the faith!
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Jul 23, 2010 2:02 AM CDT reply actions
Sure thing
if you love the Broncos, Rohan, make sure you visit us!
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Jul 23, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
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