Potential Chris Paul Destinations
by Brian Ball on Jul 23, 2010 11:32 AM CDT
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PrintI decided to do some research on where Chris Paul might be headed. Since I'm not intimately familiar with all the teams in the NBA, I decided to use the immense power of SBNation's vast network of experts. I checked every SBNation NBA site to see which teams think they could land Chris. The answer is: pretty much everybody.
Click through for a team-by-team roundup.
Atlanta Hawks: Peachtree Hoops has an entire thread devoted to landing Chris Paul. Most of the 100 comments are pegging the Hawks' chances at landing him of somewhere between 5 and 10%, with the remainder decrying the fact that the Hawks aren't a rumored destination for our disgruntled PG.
Boston Celtics: CelticsBlog also put up a thread about Chris Paul, and the commenters here are more circumspect. Of course, Boston could have Chris Paul if they wanted him. But most of the commenters think that Chris Paul isn't an upgrade over Rondo, leading commenter johnnymost to ask the question on everybody's mind: "Can he play shooting guard?"
Charlotte Bobcats: Rufus on Fire hasn't put anything on their main page about Chris Paul (strange, considering that their local media is rumormongering like mad), but the FanPosts don't disappoint. In the past two days there have been 4 FanPosts speculating about a trade, my favorite being the one titled "Do we REALLY want Chris Paul?" The posters at Rufus on Fire seem to have a general consensus: they won't give up Gerald Wallace for CP3, but a straight up trade for Erick Dampier seems fair to them.
Chicago Bulls: We can reasonably rule them out. Nothing in the last several days over at Blog a Bull mentions Chris, so they appear willing to stand pat with D-Rose and company.
Cleveland Cavaliers: Fear the Sword takes a moment to step away from the ledge they've been standing on for the last few weeks to ask: "Can the Cavs work something to get Chris Paul?" The fine Cleveland fans, however, are extremely depressed and almost all say that no deal is forthcoming. My favorite comment comes from gujuknick:
Um, Matt Barnes just rejected two years $7M to take a 2 year, $3.6M deal with the Lakers. Yes ladies and gentlemen. Matt Barnes.
I think its safe to say Paul is not coming to Cleveland.
Detroit Pistons: Detroit Bad Boys has a FanShot asking whether the Pistons can nab Paul. The general consensus is that the Pistons shouldn't get any superstars, because they'll just leave and form superteams.
Indiana Pacers: Indy Cornrows doesn't appear particularly enthralled by an available CP3, as they haven't mentioned his availability in a post or a FanPost yet.
Miami Heat: It turns out that the number of superstars needed to satiate a fan base's appetite is three (unless that fan base is in Boston). Peninsula is Mightier hasn't made a peep about the Chris Paul rumors.
Milwaukee Bucks: Over at Brew Hoop, not a creature is stirring, not even Bango the Buck. But if he did, it would be totally incredible.
New Jersey Nyets: Nets Daily has a FanShot exploring the possibility of the Nets picking up Chris Paul. Commenters are cool to the idea, especially since it would likely require giving up Derrick Favors. Nets fans also appear very concerned about the health of Chris Paul's knee.
New York Knickerbockers: Our bitter enemy over at Posting and Toasting decided to put up a thread for Chris Paul trade speculation, which I'll begrudgingly admit is acceptable since New York is the most rumored destination for CP3. The great Thelonious Dunk captures the mood:
This, purely by its nature, is a very icky thread.
Like, Eddy Curry underboob icky.
Passing up Chris Paul because you already have Fish and Blake would be like passing up a million bucks because you already have a Discover card.
Memphis Grizzlies: Straight Outta Vancouver is completely silent on Chris Paul, likely still stunned by the max signing of Rudy Gay.
Minnesota Timberwolves: You'd think that T-Wolves fans would be sick of point guards by now, but like the ravenous wolves they are, they're back for more. This FanPost suggests two deals: one to nab CP3, and the other to pry Carmelo from Denver. The commenters are intrigued.
Oklahoma City Thunder: Welcome to Loud City isn't looking to pick up Chris Paul, preferring instead to spend time thinking about the Thunder's impending dominance of the Western Conference.
Phoenix Suns: Bright Side of the Sun is silent on Paul, as well. I'm willing to bet that they're satisfied with Nash.
Portland Trailblazers: The incomparable Blazersedge is all over the Chris Paul rumors (they're usually all over them even when they don't exist). They have one immense thread about the prospect of a Chris Paul trade, but the more entertaining one is this: "NO News guy likes PDX's pieces best." Of course, that news guy is Fletcher Mackel, a man we all know and love for his ludicrous trade proposals. In this proposal, he even comes out and says that he has no sources, no inside information, and no knowledge about the matter. I don't think I'll ever get over Mackel being described as a "very solid league source."
Sacramento Kings: SacTown Royalty is totally cool with Tyreke Evans.
San Antonio Spurs: Pounding the Rock has nothing about Chris Paul, which makes sense. I doubt they'd be willing to move pieces when they already have Eva Longoria running the point.
Utah Jazz: SLC Dunk knows that Deron Williams is way better than Chris Paul, thank you very much.
FINAL SCORE: Teams that think they can get Chris Paul: 16, Teams that have better things to do: 13.
Looks like Dell Demps has a lot of offers for this Chris Paul fellow. From Erick Dampier to Chauncey Billups to Luke Walton, the Hornets have a lot of exciting options on the table. If you can find any more ridiculous trade proposals, let's hear them in the comments.
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Chris Paul isn’t an upgrade over Rondo
………………… hahahahahaha!!!!!!
If Paul was a Celtic this year, Boston would be NBA champs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qais_eGMnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39GH-nzrY_I&feature=relatde
by tlsk1066 on Jul 23, 2010 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Haha yeah
I used to think that everybody knew that Chris was the best point guard in the league and easily a top-5 talent. But apparently a lot of people think he’s overrated. I’m betting most front offices know better, though.
most fans that think with their brains and not with their ______ know better.........
i would love to have chris paul……….as fans what would you need to see from the orlando magic to feel compensated
it all depends on what you think of darren collison first………so, what say you?
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
"mark my words...we will draft 4 new linebackers this off-season" - 2010
Hahahaha!
Yeah CP3 can actually shoot a basketball.
by 3ptace on Jul 23, 2010 12:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
and he doesn't fall to the ground after every lay-up attempt
"Attitude reflect leadership, captain" - Big Jules
by KBZ on Jul 23, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
agree as a Laker fan. Rondo is one of the pg’s in the league. CP3 is one of the best PLAYERS in the league.
by mildclubsauce on Jul 23, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
you are right....
Rondo is one of the pg’s in the league
and from what i gather there are at least one or two of those guys on every team………wow!
you guys out in socal don’t get enough credit……….you sure am smarter than these
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
"mark my words...we will draft 4 new linebackers this off-season" - 2010
LOL!
Priceless.
Anyway, here’s a cool article by the T-P’s Peter Finney.
http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2010/07/now_is_not_the_time_for_new_or.html
@tlsk1066-Rondo should have led the league in assists each year the Big 3 has been together over in Boston. And he would have if he had the vision of Chris Paul. I understand Boston being high on their player but they know they’d rather Paul.
This is totally going to be my go-to answer for bad trade ideas
“No offense, but that sounds like a very short phone call that likely eliminates the possibility of future phone calls.”
http://hornetshype.com
Wait, are you saying that Fletcher Mackel isn't a trustworthy source?
But he said what I wanted to hear!
Seriously though, a good look at the SBN traffic over Chris Paul rumors.
"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
is that seriously your sig............that's a little verbose isn't it?
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
"mark my words...we will draft 4 new linebackers this off-season" - 2010
I still think that its hilarious how Chris missed half of one season with an injury, and all of a sudden he is the most overrated PG in the league.
Am I the only one that finds this mode of thinking completely ridiculous?
Oh yeah...
there’s a whole lot of ridiculous thinking going on right now? LOL!
That wasn't supposed...
to be a question mark. ugh.
haha. yeah. I still don’t think that I buy all of these rumors. But maybe I’m just being a homer…
by willisb_rad2 on Jul 23, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Hiya
About to link to this on Rufus on Fire, but to be fair, the discussion was heated, extensive, and centered around a plot to land both CP3 and Carmelo.
In the end, the trade with NOLA, as rumored on RoF, was:
NO gets: Dampier, Augustin, Henderson, Mohammed, 1st round, 2nd round
CLT gets: Paul, Okafor
Fantastical as that may be, that was the rumor. Dampier can’t be traded as part of a package with anyone else; it has to be two separate trades that amount to a package.
by David A. Arnott on Jul 23, 2010 2:46 PM CDT reply actions
We should "agree" to this trade
Then trade Okafor for Dampier and then say oh we’ll just keep CP3…thanks for playing
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
Fair enough, David
Sorry about that, I was flying pretty fast this morning going through all the blogs. I’m worried I made other mistakes. I felt like a lot of the time I had to really simplify interesting and complex debates in the interest of space and time.
No prob. I definitely echo all the other people applauding this summary of the different SBN fan bases’ reactions to the possibility of landing Paul: great work.
by David A. Arnott on Jul 23, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
so does this (thread) mean that paul is leaving the hornets before the season begins?
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
Not necessarily...
For some reason though people treat trade ideas as the best hobby ever.
I think Brian Ball...
was interested in seeing what other fans of other teams were saying.
I really don't know whether he's leaving or not
But I found the speculation about his supposed unhappiness to be pretty funny.
Brian Ball...
CP3 is very family oriented. I think his entire family should read that article. He’s looking like a huge follower in many peoples’ eyes right now. From day 1 Lebron sat out to be bigger than the game of basketball itself. And the NBA is helping him do it apparently. Now he has followers in his cult.
No kidding
hopefully more stuff like this from friends/family even more media sway him…
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Can someone tell me...
why do people keep wanting to give the Hornets expiring contracts? Don’t they have expirings of their own?
by QueenBee on Jul 23, 2010 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yup
Entirely right. We only have two big long-term contracts, Emeka and Posey. It would be nice to move one of those for a good long-term deal.
Thanks Brian Ball...
that’s kind of what I figured. It seems the people that keep with this are those that think the Hornets are only looking to save money and not worry about winning games at all.
I mean
As long as we’re under the tax, we don’t really care. Plus, I’m willing to bet that within the next year Gary Chouest will become the owner, so with Peja’s deal expiring at the end of the year, plus a couple other contracts coming off the books, we’ll have the ability to pay for a max deal, a mid-level exception, and a bi-annual exception, presuming Chouest is willing to pay the luxury tax (I have no idea if he is).
It just got me to wondering...
when I was reading John Hollinger’s chat long after it was over.
Sigh...
I really hope its not the Blazers because I am not a fan of any Blazer not named Aldridge or Roy. Also, I think CP3 is hurting himself (well these rumors are) since, not sure if someone else brought this up, but if I was a Free Agent and my agent/manager or whoever told me Hornets wanted to make an offer and I heard that the teams best player wanted out. I would probably not want to sign with New Orleans.
So assuming CP3 wants talent around here or he wants out, he may actually be making it to where no talent wants to come here which is counter productive.
You gotta love Greg Oden
He’s a stand-up guy, and he’s gotten nothing but terrible breaks in his career.
and he's really good
when healthy
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 23, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
When Healthy
is the key phrase. We already got rid of one decent center who gets hurt entirely too much. We do not need another one. If we HAD to take a center from the Blazers, I would rather Pryzbilla. They still got him right?
every blazer fan would gladly give joel more than greg
we still have joel
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 23, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup
I’d much prefer Greg. He is, when healthy, an absolute beast. 20% rebound rate, 120-ish ORating. He’s a rebounding machine and terrifically efficient on offense. When he gets healthy, he definitely has the skills to be a solid defender. And he’s a guy you can unabashedly root for, at the very least.
Has Oden...
ever been healthy? From what I remember he has been hurt every season he has been in the NBA. I would get Pryzbilla production for 80 games then Oden production for 25-30.
joel was hurt just as many games as oden last year
oden was the blazers best player last year, better than roy
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 23, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Either way
I dont like any deal involving the Blazers unless Roy or Aldridge is involved. CP3 is the best PG in basketball and it would take more then roleplayer and a often hurt center (either Oden or Joel) to make me feel better about losing CP3.
just about every blazer fan would rather give up aldridge than oden or batum
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 23, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
A-frickin-men
Take Aldridge!!!! Hes yours if you want him! Paul, Roy, Batum, ?, Oden. Sounds good to me! Title Contenders!!! Aldridge is softer than a jelly donut. We’ll take DWest if you want Aldridge!
camby could start at the 4
Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
marty>babbitt
by thomasikehara on Jul 23, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Comparing Tyson Chandler to Greg Oden is pretty unfair
Oden is gobs better. But man, think of Oden and Paul running the pick-and-roll. That’s a vision, right there. Obviously, all the trade scenarios would have them swapping uniforms, and they’d be playing for the Blazers. But still, from just a basketball perspective, pretty cool.
as a bobcat fan
i feel bad for you hornets, getting screwed over AGAIN…
CP3 is definately out of there, hopefully you guys can get some good pieces to build around for the future and get some good draft picks in the next two (at least) lotteries
george shinn is the world’s biggest douche
Really?
“…hopefully you guys can get some good pieces to build around for the future…”
Why is it that I don’t believe you? LMAO.
believe us, you losing CP does not come close to how much we have been screwed and heartbroken by that sly S.O.B.
no one wants to see a team fall apart either and have a bad season. competitive basketball is fun to watch.
As much as i would love for CP to end up on the bobcats, i miss players like jeter that stay with their teams for their career.
I hear what you're saying unccatfan...
unfortunately I don’t think you can speak for everyone because yes, there are some that do enjoy seing other teams fall apart or have bad seasons.
Thanks for the sympathy
There’s a long trail of burned bridges behind George Shinn, and Charlotte obviously got screwed pretty badly. Although, considering his somewhat salacious past, “screwed” might not be a very good word to use…
indeed
conclusion- i hope y’all get bought by another owner because i dont think Shinn deserves an ounce of success or respect.
Queenbee- you are correct in that people do like to see teams fall apart. its a shame. i loved seeing how close the western playoff race was last year.
That was fun wasn't it?
The WC is crazy! I agree it is a shame when people want to see other teams fail. I also agree with you when you said competitive basketball is fun. These players trying to form all these superteams don’t seem like it’ll be all that much fun to me. I hope the sale hurries up and gets completed as well. Shinn needs to go away never to be seen or heard from again.
agreed. ive never seen a 1 and 8 seed have records so close.
and agreed, shinn needs to be gone forever
I was just out driving...
and I thought to myself “I’ll bet if everyone loved Shinn he would’ve been gone a long time ago”. LOL! But disliked people tend to linger on what seems like FOREVER. LOL!
Jigga confirmed the rumors in his song 99 Problems
" 99 Problems but Nawlins ain’t one
if you havin city problems
I feel bad for you son
I got 99 problems but NOLA ain’t one "
by OnPointLikeCP3 on Jul 23, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good (New) Article by Adrian Wojnarowski (Yahoo Sports)
“Paul bends to King James’ rule”:
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Jul 23, 2010 9:01 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, it's just kind of sad
I think that article is the least charitable interpretation of the events we have in front of us. I’m not saying it’s incorrect; I simply don’t know. And obviously Woj has insane contacts, so this version of events could be totally true. My grandma always told me to take things people do and say the best possible way. Not sure if that folksy wisdom applies to the NBA, though…
true dat to all of the above
esp the folksy part. While it doesn’t hurt neither does an argument like this from Woj/from us generate a lot of persuasion. Realistically, Shinn is unreliable at best but closer to Donald Sterling 2.0, it’s fairly certain Bower & CP3 didn’t see eye-to-eye on important issues, & while the signing of Posey was justifiable at the time (despite it not being so in hindsight), it truly is difficult to make a realistic case in practical terms that our NOLA Hornets haven’t been mired in listlessness for a good while now since the playoffs with the Spurs.
Speaking in terms of the Miami 3, whom since CP3 is now relying on LBJ’s cabal, are probably the best practical players to measure CP’s relative expectations: While Wade had to endure one epically bad season, he could probably still rely on trust with Riley & ownership to do all the right things consistently in good faith. James wagged the entire Cleveland franchise. As did Bosh with TOR & Colangelo re moves like signing Hedo to make the franchise seem like a convincing contender.
Our Problems as I See It
1. We have George Shinn, someone who you have to go to tremendous lengths to simply convince others that he’s not one of the worst, irredeemably terrible owners in the NBA.
2. We had Jeff Bower, who despite some unknown # of online fans here (including me, until this year’s draft that is), was someone CP evidently didn’t agree with on some key personnel issues.
3. Then we got an at worst, mild, at best, non-existent, pie in our face because we went for Thibodeaux while CP3 purportedly wanted Monty Williams, & subsequently couldn’t land Thibodeaux & hired Williams by default.
4. Coupled with a draft that (who knows until the season starts) may/or may not work out … but however practical, was primarily rooted in cost-cutting (moving Mo-Pete) rather than directly acquiring desperately needed personnel (bona fide reliable big man) & didn’t receive a numerous enough # of rave reviews from ppl outside of ATH to offset the probable/possible perception that relatively immediate gratification (a winning team/deep playoff contender) was not on CP3’s horizon.
What Could Demps & Shinn Do to Convince CP?
There is a smattering of practical args that Demps can make that may be good enough to sway CP’s reasoning away from that of LBJ’s influences, that are based on the past, such as good-faith attempts like signing Posey after the Spurs series to put us over the top, & signing Okafor based on Chandler’s injury history, but I think it’s just an uphill, not impossible, but difficult, situation for Chouest damnit get here fast & save us! Demps and Shinn to navigate well enough to gain CP3’s enduring approval.
Personally I think it’s better to just ignore the past because it’s too marred with an association w/Bower & bad contracts with bad players, & for Demps to emphasize the expiring contracts, that even if some of our personnel are duplicative it can be turned into a tremendous advantage because we can move certain players without having to necessarily replace them at that position, & the the imminent flexibility we’re potentially going to enjoy. Maybe Demps can even give CP the best news he could possibly get, that ownership is about to change hands. I just hope Shinn stays out of the room, if he entered & I were CP, I’d have as much faith in his reassurances as I would with Matthew Lesko http://bit.ly/79W9V. Agree/disagree?
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Jul 23, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Just figuring this thing out
despite how long i’ve been on here, i’ll see what i can do
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Jul 23, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Done & done
it’s no ATH or the work of other tenured elder statesmen here, but hopefully adequate enough a restatement
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Jul 23, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I cry
I’m not even a Hornets’ fan, (sorry NO fans), but I cry at any mention that Chris Paul isn’t the best point guard in the league. The post I read from the Denver (and the comments) are just so sad. I don’t know how many of them have watched Chris Paul play. I see comments like “he’s a flopper, overrated, not as cerebral as Chaucey”. Seriously? You’re saying that Chris Paul not making it to the WCF is his fault? That’s like blaming Dwayne Wade for not having gone past the first round the past two years. Ty Lawson doesn’t deserve to not start? I’m sorry, but I think Ty Lawson would be perfectly happy picking apart Chris Paul’s brain, considering that Paul is closer to Ty Lawson’s prototype than a big guard like Chauncey.
I really hope Chris Paul doesn’t leave NO at all, though, even if I’d love to have him on the Rockets. It would disappoint me to no end.
Thanks B
It’s great to hear that there are some fans out there that would like to see him stay rather than go. And for that I hope CP stays and the Rockets and Hornets battle it out in the WCF’s this year, even if I hate Yao Ming haha.
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
Woah
That is really, really interesting. Gives credence to the “this is all ludicrously made up” theory. This is why I don’t want to jump to conclusions and say a bunch of really nasty things about Chris Paul – he hasn’t done anything yet. And so far, he’s been nothing but a class act.
Howard Beck of the NYTimes....
says this on his twitter…
To be clear: Hard to prove that CP3 is or isn’t with LRMR. All I’m reporting is that he emphatically denied it to a league official today
about 3 hours ago via web
He also said this...
Given intense backlash over LeBron’s “Decision,” it seems reasonable that CP3 would reconsider whether to hire LBJ’s marketing guys.
about 3 hours ago via web
Wow
Amazing how many things we’ve read made it sound like he was already with LRMR….
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WOW
Please do not sign…Don’t become Lebron CP. Look at what I am doing, begging, that’s how desperate I am…
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
Grayson, isn't this weird?
Haven’t we been treating the LRMR thing as a long-done deal for a while now? And now he’s apparently never signed? Is all the info we’re getting just terrible?
It certaintly puts the CP rumors back into question
Because if the LRMR signing wasn’t true then how sure can we be of Chris Paul’s trade demands? I mean I still think he has demanded a trade, but there is still a question of whether it’s true or not…
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
Deal
We’ll trade you Posey & Peja straight up!
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Jul 23, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Oops
you meant CP3. No thanks then, he’s no CP. Sick talent but doesn’t have leader makeup/is too much for one coach to handle, & his value to ATL or potentially NO doesn’t approach the value CP brings to NO or potentially ATL. I dunno, have to side with everyone else here saying it’s impossible to trade a player like Paul & get equal or better value in return
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Jul 23, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The problem with any CP# trade is it isnt going to be fair for the Hornets.
Im a rockets fan, so I know CP all to well. If Hou could land him, I would literally quit my job so I could think about the Rockets all day long. I doubt he even gets traded though and if he does, it will be a huge deal. The best player traded in a very long time.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
I think a trade is highly likely at this point
But the question becomes when. I think and hope that CP gives this new Hornets regime one year to make its grand move, if they don’t then cut the cord. But I do feel as if Chris may just give up and follow in the Lebron’s footsteps and take the easy way out, only difference is at least Lebron finished his contract…
Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003
Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.
i dont see a possible trade that would benefit the hornets even the smallest amount
im so disappointed… cp3 is the drew brees of the hornets… without him we are back to nothingness
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by DrewBreesManCrush on Jul 24, 2010 2:58 AM CDT reply actions
Thanks for the praise
I wrote the SS&R article you linked. As for the Lakers’ involvement in any of this, I find it highly doubtful, although some of the scenarios I elaborated on do make sense for both sides (especially now that Walton might retire, giving the Lakers another important asset).
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Why would you trade your biggest star?
There are two years left on his contract. Make him play another year if this is all true.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).
I agree...
And I’m hoping Dell Demps (after being around the Spurs organization) would know how to be smart about this.
any way that new orleans can reclaim their orginal name, the new orleans jazz?
i think if a team moves, such as charlotte, the original new orleans jazz, the new city should not have to inherit their name (i.e., utah)
new orleans jazz makes has a better ring than the hornets.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
i agree
I absolutly love the new orleans jazz utah has no connection to the jazz maybe they should change there name to the utah mormons lol jk but i do think the hornets should get the jazz name back and utah can make up there own name
Don't be a sheep
Word is LeBron indeed advised Paul to demand a trade but he wants CP3 to stay in Western Conf. to make a better rivalry.
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I agree...
Sheep is the word. I mean if he goes along with any of this stuff I’ll almost wonder if Lebron’s circus have administered some kind of drug to CP3. LOL!
Question
I’m coming at you as a Mavs fan. Would you Hornets fans revolt at an offer of Chandler, Butler, Stevenson, Beaubois, 3 Million, and 2 first rounders? You get a pretty decent return of immediate talent back, the 3 guys with substantial money are FAs after this year, and Beaubois is a very exciting young guard (who plays better as a 2).
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
would you revolt if the Hornets offered to trade Shinn for Mark Cuban?
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by NC Magic Fan on Jul 24, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Ha
very likely. But if Cuban turned around and devoted all his resources to the Rangers, I’d be kinda OK with it.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
by Conjunction on Jul 24, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
We'd like more high-end talent than that
But I think we’re looking for draft picks more than anything. It’s not an atrocious offer, but I’ve been spending the last few days looking at Chauncey Billups for Chris Paul proposals, so I think I need to be re-calibrated.
What else on the Mavs' roster
would make it work? If you want Alexis Ajinca, I suppose he’s a recent 1st round pick who’s somewhat disposable.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
by Conjunction on Jul 24, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
had some fun with the trade machine
If CP3 has to go I wouldnt mind something crazy like this lol
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=292wypb
Why would the Pacers
do that, though?
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
by Conjunction on Jul 24, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha...
a trade that John Hollinger said would make sense to him.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=26bakyx
Tweeted…
As far as CP trades, here’s the one that makes most sense to me. Miller would go to a 3rd team; where is unimportant: http://es.pn/b8qyYr
35 minutes ago via web
Hornets stay competitive with Collison-Roy-West-Okafor and 11 cap space; Blazers promote Wes, sidestep alpha-dog issue
34 minutes ago via web
And then Paul will once again bow down to Lebron by staying in the WC. LOL!
I don't get that
That trade puts us like $5M over the tax, and we’re still stuck with Okafor’s contract.
So then ...
that wouldn’t make any sense at all from a Hornets perspective.
Or Portlands that would minus their projected wins by 7
"Good, Better, Best, never let it rest until your good is your better and your better is your best." Tim Duncan
Projected wins?
You just got a top 5 player in the league and only had to loss Roy. roy is good but he isnt a top 5 player and he isnt as good as Paul.
Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?
just one more reason 8 >3
In Paul’s earliest days with Team USA, officials preferred Deron Williams to him because they believed Williams was far more his own man. No one liked the way Paul was so eager to follow James, Carmelo Anthony(notes) and Dwyane Wade
send cp3 to portland. DWill would love to have a couple more games to chew him up each year . . .
Yeah, DWill...
is so good that Lebron and his circus isn’t even bothering with him. All that ‘chewing up’ DWill does and he still hasn’t had an MVP caliber season. Dang.
What's that former Jazz players name...
that DWill was with when the police questioned them and DWill gave a false name to the police saying his name was “Torry Ellis”? I can’t think of that other guys name for the life of me. Was it Robert something?
"In Paul’s earliest days with Team USA, officials preferred Deron Williams to him"
It sure didn’t keep them from going with Paul instead of Deron in 2006 though did it? Deron didn’t even get a look until Paul had ankle surgery that summer of 2007. Time to give it a rest Jazz fans. You’d enjoy your great point guard a little more if you weren’t so focused on Deron Williams being >Paul.
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