The Free Agent Point Guard Options
by Rohan on Aug 19, 2010 2:00 AM CDT
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PrintI've been dreading writing this story in much the same way movie critics once dreaded reviewing Plan 9 from Outer Space. Unlike them, though, I won't have the option of laughing heartily at my subject because, barring some late magic from Mr. Demps, one of the following fellows will likely be a New Orleans Hornet next season.
The "options," I guess, after the jump.
UPDATE 1: Sundiata Gaines (thanks sXe hXc AMF)
Pros: High PER (17.3), decent assist figure, low turnover rate, solid rebounder
Cons: Accumulated his good numbers in limited minutes (217 to be exact), still very inexperienced
Earl Watson
Pros: Defense, decent passer
Cons: Turns the ball over, can't shoot, can't make free throws, 10.9 PER last year, old
Earl Boykins
Pros: Low turnover rates, okay passer, 12.9 PER last year but 15.6 career
Cons: Defense, can't shoot, short, old
Rafer Alston
Pros: Nickname would fit with L. Amundson, decent passer
Cons: Likely insane, likely hated by Chris Paul, definitely hated by David West, bad, old
Chucky Atkins
Pros: None
Cons: Very bad at basketball
Bobby Brown
Pros: Chucker extraordinare. Oh wait, I thought we were on the cons already.
Cons: Almost as bad as Atkins, only 10 years younger!
Cedric Jackson
Pros: Very few people know anything about him
Cons: Very few people know anything about him
Patrick Mills
Pros: Fast, Australian
Cons: Young, inexperienced
Jannero Pargo
Pros: Decent passer, good defender
Cons: Shoots too much, horrifically inefficient
Chris Quinn
Pros: Low turnovers, 39% three point shooter, from NOLA, career 13.0 PER
Cons: Not a good creator of shots, poor from the field excepting open threes
Jamaal Tinsley
Pros: Name recognition
Cons: Often injured, Prolific shot misser, even prolific-er ball loser (~30% turnovers last year), overall incompetent at basketball. Oh, and let's tack on 'old' too.
Marcus Williams
Pros: Dell Demps protege, good shot creator
Cons: Bad shooter, high turnovers, head case?
Mustafa Shakur
Pros: He lives!
Cons: But he sucks
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Did the Jazz...
resign Sundiata Gaines? If not, maybe him? would probably come cheap and he didnt look half bad in his limited run last season.
I think Gaines or Mills could be very decent backups. We are spoiled a little by DCs abilities. Whomever we get wont be as good as DC but the two mentioned above are young and I wouldnt cringe with either of them. But these two are the only ones I want from that list. All others are as you stated approriately “Uggh”. Lets pray for someone like Mills or Gaines.
by berlinhornets on Aug 19, 2010 5:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Obviously I'd love Mills
But there are some “Okay” options out there. We’re asking a guy to come in here, run the half-court but for the most part, be able to run the floor and find the shooters/cutters. To me the FO can bring in anyone.
On another note, I have been asked to become the Hornets correspondent over at Hardcourt Mayhem and have set up a blog. I would love for some of you guys to check out my work and comment on there too as I’ll feel lonely and unappreciated…hahaha
Just click on my sig to go there.
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I like the name of the blog too. Gaines or Mills would work….I’d rather take my chances with an unknown than any of the others….anyway we can get Calderon without having to pay him?? LOL
Luther Head
Luther Head… The player who’s signing was roundly panned here, looks like he would have been a steal now, doesn’t he? At a minimum level salary of $1.3 mill.
He’s shot over 1000 3-pointers and made almost 39% of them in his career. He can easily fill in at either PG or SG.
Any reason you left him off the list? Was it because we already “un-signed” him?
Gaines or Marcus Williams
Seem like low risk and high reward guys. I know a lot of people won’t like Williams, he seems most likely because of his relationship with Dell Demps. But he has talent and I wouldn’t mind seeng the team take a chance on either of those two. Every other guy is just going to be a stop gap and that’s fine. But I’m dreading the idea of Chris Paul getting hurt again.
"You play to win the game."
Different looks
Whatever Hornets do, it cannot be sign Marcus Williams who has proven beyond any doubt that he cannot play at this level. The rest of the choices don’t inspire much hope either.
Don’t count Marco Belinelli out as a backup PG. He’s typecast as a shooting guard because he is primarily regarded as a shooter. But Marco is a very good ball handler and passer, and at 6’5" he gives would give the Hornets a different look backing up CP3. Hornets do need to sign another PG, agreed, but I hope Monty will give Marco a look at the 1 in training camp.
Remember to distinguish your Marcus Williams :)
Marcus #1 was a highly touted draftee out of Uconn and was the heir to Kidd in NJ. Never worked out there nor GSW and went overseas. Last season he played in a backup role in Memphis and actually showed some glimpses.
Here is a nice read about him: http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/mar/12/nothing-net-after-early-struggles-grizzlies-willia/
Marcus #2 was drafted by the Spurs in 2007 but has spent most of his career in the D-League. Here is a nice read about him: http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/09/09/a-conversation-with-marcus-williams/
Ridiculous Upside is pretty sure the #2 (the one Rohan is referring to) can definitely contribute in the NBA. I personally wouldn’t mind seeing either one given a chance to make the team over everyone else on the list above.
I’d rather take a chance on him who has been around NBA teams/good players enough to have a clue. It’s better than bringing in a washed up has been or an inexperienced little upside young guy.
As far as Marco, I’ve seen him a bit and he can handle the ball but I don’t feel like he’d do well over the course of the season.
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Ack - posted before I finished it.
Just to finish my thought on Marco, to be a PG in the NBA you have to excel with the ball. There are many good ball handlers who play other positions but if faced with running the team on nightly basis, I think they’d be exposed.
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Point Guard
Red, Good points, for sure. But Marco can initiate the offense as a 1 or 2. He’s got a good handle, sees the floor brilliantly, is a creative passer, and has leadership ability. If the coaches give him a real opportunity and show confidence in him, he can run a team. I’m not saying it’s the Hornets’ best option for a backup PG, but having him available at that position decreases the urgency for signing a first-rate backup, especially since there don’t seem to be any available.
Hope Rohan is talking about Marcus Williams #2. Clarification?
P. Mills
Arguably, the best point guard available.
Mills, Gaines...
or Earl Watson.
Definitely not many good choices here but these guys may be able to hold it down for CP to take breathers.
How much did Earl Watson play last season?
LOL!
at Watson tripping Julian in that picture. I’m guessing that was a dumb foul he picked up. LOL!
I think Boykins...
is on his way to the Bucks.
What's With All The Patty Mills Love?
Not against him one way or the other, but can’t understand the clamoring by most of you for his services. Nothing wrong with undrafted free agents but wouldn’t it be a lot to expect him to play 10-15 minutes a game?
"You play to win the game."
Am I the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Pargo come back to NOLA
He had some pretty good seasons backing up CP3. He provided a spark on occasion coming off the bench. He certainly wasn’t terrible. He’s no Darren Collison, but I think he can still be effective
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
It's been talked about in other threads
In essence, the only favorable impression he has made on anyone was on Hornets fans for the 1 season. Everything else has been a gutter ball.
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Brown actually put up decent stats for sumer league
Date Opponent Result MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Jul 17 @ NOH W 101 – 93 17 7 – 11 1 – 3 0 – 0 0 0 0 3 1 0 0 1 15
Jul 16 @ SAC W 88 – 82 22 3 – 7 0 – 1 2 – 2 0 2 2 2 0 0 2 1 8
Jul 14 vs. NYK W 102 – 89 18 4 – 6 0 – 1 0 – 0 0 2 2 6 2 0 2 2 8
Jul 13 vs. HOU W 100 – 91 27 6 – 7 2 – 2 6 – 7 0 0 0 3 2 0 1 2 20
Jul 10 @ PHX W 103 – 69 21 5 – 6 1 – 1 0 – 0 0 3 3 6 1 0 2 1 11
He has to improve his 3 pt shot, but if he plays like summer league 8-10 min won’t hurt at all.
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Lots of Red Flags, But..
I know he is a bit of a headcase, I know he has a 10 game suspension coming up, but I think Delonte West would be a great backup for the team as well. He’s probably better suited for 2 guard, though.
"You play to win the game."
If he were to pass a pysch exam
why not.
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I got one u missed
delonte west he may be cheap since he is suspended for the first ten games I like that he can handle the ball and run the point he can shoot and we can prolly get him for cheap since the suspension i watched him in college and he was very good defensively shooting and running the point at times for st joe’s
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