The Not-Too-Far Future of the Rebuilding Process
[Promoted from the FanPosts: a great look at what may lie in the Hornets' future this season - Rohan]
In this day and age it's hard not to become personally attached to a professional athlete. Their lives get closer and closer to our own each passing moment with the developments in social networking technology. As fans, we develop a sense of closeness with guys we follow on Twitter or see in media day interviews on YouTube, when in reality we may have never been within 100 miles of them. But that's just the way things are in this era of technology, we've become connected and intertwined in ways we still don't quite understand, and because of that, we have a lot of trouble watching even the smallest of players leave town. However, when a trade goes down including our "favorite player(s)" we have to step outside ourselves and measure things up, remember what the real goal is, and learn to accept and understand that, whatever it may be. As Hornets fans, we have been through a lot, probably more in the past ten years since the team has been here than most fan-bases have had to deal with in a lifetime, but that's the way it has to be with a small market team; in order to win big, you have to lose big first.
The Hornets have started down the path of rebuilding, they're seeking their second rebirth project in the last 5-6 years, and so far they are off to a great start. They acquired Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu, and Minnesota's unprotected 1st round draft choice from the Los Angeles Clippers in exchange for Chris Paul; a fair exchange of talent, potential, and assets for any rebuilding team. The Hornets also traded Quincy Pondexter to the Memphis Grizzlies for point guard Greivis Vasquez, and signed Spanish League sensation Gustavo Ayon. The amount of turnover on this team is incredible as only one player has been here for more than a year (Emeka Okafor), and only three others were on the roster for all of last season (Ariza, Belinelli, Smith). With the rapid exchange rate we have experienced, we're beginning to have our feelings dulled towards players, and this is a good thing for our situation. Players come and players go, but it's on the coaching staff and front office executives to put the right players into their system like seeds in a flower bed. And finally, to get to my point, I brought all of this up because I want to talk about what comes next because I can assure you that Dell Demps is not through making moves, not with three valuable big men and a 3-point sharpshooter. But I'd prefer to focus on just two of these guys: Carl Landry and Chris Kaman. They are our two most movable assets and can easily be flipped to a contender, and it's those possibilities that I will expand on.
The Front Runners
There will be several teams in the running for the services of Landry and Kaman, but a couple of them really stand out. Those teams are the Dallas Mavericks, the Boston Celtics, the Portland Trail Blazers, and the San Antonio Spurs. All of those teams have a desire to get better down in the paint and want a big man who can be reliable as a post player and also hit an 18-footer, Kaman and Landry can do those things. Both players have differences though; Landry is smaller, but a better athlete and scorer than Kaman; Kaman is a better shooter, rebounder, and shot blocker than Landry. Now we see how each player fits into those teams.
- Dallas Mavericks, Best Fit: Chris Kaman
- Why: The Mavericks have no center. Brendan Haywood has declined faster than anyone could have imagined and appears to have lost all ability to play basketball effectively. Adding Kaman to the roster gives the Mavericks a bit more of a presence down low. Dirk can slide back into his power forward position, and Odom and Marion can rotate between starting small forward and backup power forward/center. The only problem here is that Dallas is lacking any pieces the Hornets may want, and there's no conceivable way to make the trade work salary-wise without getting very creative.
- Potential: Unlikely
- Boston Celtics, Best Fit: Chris Kaman
- The Celtics are old, not quite at the same level of oldness as the aforementioned Mavericks, but their "Big 3" are now the "Old 3", and this team is also lacking any semblance of a presence in the middle. Jermaine O'Neal is far past his prime and hardly a backup at this juncture, much less a starter, so adding Kaman makes a ton of sense for the Celtics. A legit starting center means Garnett can play his true position more and get some much needed rest. The acquisition also opens up the offense a little more as the Celtics will have two well rounded offensive threats with Garnett and Kaman up front. But, again, the Celtics don't have a lot of assets and must also do some tinkering to make the trade work.
- Potential: Somewhat Likely
- San Antonio Spurs, Best Fit: Carl Landry
- The Spurs are riding the Tim Duncan train on fumes right now, and adding Carl Landry would be a good attempt at juicing the gas pedal one last time. Duncan has lost several steps and is a lot closer to retirement than many of us had expected, but he's going to give one more solid year before the gas eventually runs out. Pairing the up-tempo Carl Landry with him gives a pretty nice one-two punch in the front, and what they may lack defensively, they can make up for with scoring and ball movement, and Gregg Popovich is a nice bonus, too.
- Potential: Fairly Likely
- Portland Trail Blazers, Best Fit: Either Player
- The Blazers made no secret about wanting to add Carl Landry to the mix this off season, but in the end, he chose to come back to New Orleans for a bigger payday. The Blazers have a very good team right now, but lack another legit post player to pair with stud LaMarcus Aldridge. Marcus Camby is moonlighting as a defensive specialist in the starting lineup, but should his team acquire either of these players, he's in line for longer resting periods. This trade would make sense for both sides because Portland offers young talent.
- Potential: Highly Likely
We won't hear too much about these guys moving until early February, so it's safe to put a lid on things for now because a lot can change throughout the league until then. But it's not hard to see these guys names pop up frequently around the trade deadline as teams start figuring out what they need to make a push for a championship because this year presents a unique opportunity for other teams to win it all. Until then, keep faith in the future of this franchise and try not to get too attached to anyone on this team, except for Monty Williams; that guy's a stud. Geaux Hornets!
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Portland fan here.
Great write-up and I wish you and especially Monty Williams well in your ongoing rebuilding process. I believe the Hornets have the opportunity to rapidly acquire assets and begin building their core very soon. Eric Gordon is a solid, versatile SG and although he’s slightly undersized, he plays hardnosed defense and is offensively awesome. The combination of Minnesota’s and your own 1st rounders give you the potential to add 2 franchise cornerstones in the upcoming deep draft. With that said, I believe that the premise of 504life’s post is correct, and you should be looking to move all valuable assets that are not young and do not fit into the future core for picks and/or young players.
Now with that said, I, along with many Portland fans, want Emeka Okafor. So I come here to ask you what you would want in exchange for Okafor, obviously the package would have to start with Marcus Camby’s expiring contract for salary purposes, but what combination of young guns, picks, cash and rights to euro players (we currently hold the rights to SF Victor Claver of Spain, and PF/C Joel Freeland of England, playing in Spain.)
Thank you, and good luck in the future, I hope to see the next OKC Thunder-esque team rise out of the Big Easy in the upcoming years.
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From our perspective, I think it’s honestly a bit tough to read how other teams value Oak. We’ve seen things ranging all the way down to him being called overpaid, out-of-position, mediocre player. But Oak’s really the main player that held this very decent (and at times elite) defense together last season, and he’s the centerpiece of Monty’s defense again this year. His offensive numbers are never going to jump out obviously, but on a good team with solid pieces around him, I think he’s reasonably close to his contract value in terms of production.
I don’t know how much value Claver and Freeland have at this point, given that they’re getting older (relatively speaking), but NOLA has been very willing to take a shot on international and dleague talent since Dell Demps became GM. What do you think Portland would offer in terms of picks/young players?
In my opinion, Okafor is slightly overpaid.
I do believe he’s worth around 10-11 million a year, because lets face it, big men get paid, but being owed 40+ million over the next 3 years is slightly overpaying for his production. I would imagine a package for Okafor being something like Camby, Elliot Williams, rights to Joel Freeland, 2 2nd round picks (I would offer you a 1st, but our next available 1st is 2015, and that’s after our protected 2013 pick is given to Charlotte in the Gerald Wallace trade), and a couple million in cash. This would give you cap relief with Camby, an athletic freak with great handles in Williams, rights to a legit socring/rebounding big who has expressed interest in joining the NBA during the next offseason and a couple of gamble picks to take a fly on some high risk/high reward players, plus some cash money to the NBA, because David Stern will insist that Paul Allen coughs up a little dough…
I have a hard time sharing these trade proposals with non Portland fans because I’m always afraid that I’m overvaluing our own assets. So please, be brutally honest with me and call me a crazy homer if you think this is a joke, but honestly, I feel like giving up Freeland should seal the deal.
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I don't know if I'd do that package because I don't know if the pieces would fit
But I think it’s actually more than reasonable value in terms of what’s coming back
Very good post bud
Haven’t really thought about it, but you’re right, I do feel less attached and am ready to move in any direction the FO so chooses.
As far as trades, I agree with a good number of it but would just like to argue SAS and DAL. First, not sure the Spurs would rather have Landry. They already have the undersized Blair operating around the paint. Plus it’s no secret, they’ve coveted in placing a true center next to Duncan.
As far as DAL, I would have to believe it is quite likely they’ll look to add a center at some point. Haywood is washed up and they’re even now looking at D-Leaguer Sean Williams. I know Grand Tanyon loved the guy, but I just can’t see him being the answer. Kaman’s expiring contract is also VERY inviting to them since they want to have a bunch of free cap space for next season (re: Deron/D12).
I actually
like, from a Spurs perspective, the idea of Landry backing up Blair at the 4. But obviously he’s making a bit too much to be a bench guy probably.
Sean was a mid 1st rounder
His attitude and immature actions caused him to get cut, not his play. He did shine with the Texas Legends of the D-League.
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Trading Okafor
If gtbassett is remotely close on what we would get back, I can’t imagine Dell not jumping all over it. The last big money contract for next season gone, a good defensive center in Canby, picks, cash, rights to promising players, and you still have what many think are our best trade chips in Kaman and Landry. I don’t see how it gets better than that. What would we have, about 40-50 million in cap space for next year?
cap space
Keep in mind that, if we sign Gordon this year, he’ll probably get somewhere around 12 to 14 million (just my guess – Ben Gordon is making around $12 million by comparison). Add Jack’s $6 mill and Ariza’s $7 mill, that’s already almost $27 million in three players.
Aminu, Smith and Vasquez add another $8 mill together. That’s arouind $35 mill between 6 players.
Assuming $60 mill salary cap, then we’d have around $25 million to sign 6 to 9 players, including our draft picks.
The lottery picks will sign for around $2.5 mill each. So that’s $40 million cap space used for 8 players, incluidng draft picks. We’d have $20 milion left to sign remaining 4 to 7 players.
That’s just a very rough estimate.
adding Okafor
If we still have Okafor, that’s $53 million among 9 players. We’d nearly have our rotation then, but we’d still need to sign 3-5 players for around $7 million total.

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