Eric Gordon's Knee Injury: What We Know
Tomorrow morning, I was going to argue why Eric Gordon deserves a maximum extension from the Hornets, spanning at least four years (if not the full five, which we could hold onto for someone like Tom Robinson or, heh heh, Anthony Davis). Tomorrow morning, I will not be doing that because yesterday night, Monty Williams said this:
I know some things. I'd love to tell you guys as much as I do know but I've got to hold onto it for another day or two and get some more information from the doctors. They're still running tests on him but we'll know more Monday or Tuesday for sure.
Now this could be nothing. It really could be. We could look back at this on Wednesday, laughing, pushing each other into the bushes ("come on, the water's on, let's go!").
But consider: Eric Gordon was supposed to return from a "knee bruise" shortly after the December 26th season opener against the Phoenix Suns. When Gordon held off on returning until January 4th, it was billed simply as a "precautionary measure." Gordon was day-to-day during the intermediate time period, but he hasn't played since the Philadelphia game on the 4th. The fact that there's "important" news to report at all points strongly towards a negative revelation, if only because a healthy Gordon, based on our information so far, would hardly be proclamation worthy.
The Gordon injury saga has been a bit convoluted thus far because in many ways, it sprouted from nothing. At the time of the trade, we knew Gordon last had a serious wrist injury with the Clippers in 2011 that he'd recovered fully from. Aside from that, we were largely led to believe he was arriving in one piece. So a quick timeline here of Gordon's first month in New Orleans:
December 14th: Eric Gordon traded to New Orleans Hornets (Los Angeles Times)
December 16th: Gordon, Kaman, Aminu ineligible for first preseason game at Memphis (At the Hive)
December 17th: Gordon passes team physical examination with Hornets (Los Angeles Times)
December 17th: Gordon attends but does not participate in Hornets practice while Kaman, Aminu do (At the Hive)
December 21st: Gordon plays first game for Hornets, preseason vs. Memphis. (At the Hive)
December 26th: Gordon plays first regular season game, vs. Phoenix (At the Hive)
It was later revealed (two days later) that Gordon bumped knees with Grant Hill in the third quarter. Video is below.
December 28th: Gordon misses game against Boston Celtics due to "bruised right knee" (WWLTV)
December 31st: Gordon misses second straight game, reveals knee bruise was pre-existing condition (SI)
January 4th: Gordon returns to starting lineup against Philadelphia (At the Hive)
January 6th: Hornets announce Gordon will miss 2-3 more weeks with knee injury (Hornets.com)
January 20th: 2 weeks later, Monty Williams gives cryptic quote on the condition of Gordon's knee
And so here we are. The problem, in all of this, is the dreaded "pre-existing" modifier to Gordon's injury. Gordon never suffered a right knee injury while with the Clippers, nor is there any evidence of him picking up a knee injury over the extended lockout offseason. And of course, at the time of the physical, the Hornets revealed no information about his current injury status.
All we have to go off of is his collision with Grant Hill against Phoenix.
Through some sleuthing, we can find exactly what play it happened. The collision occurred in the 3rd quarter; Popcorn Machine shows that Hill and Gordon were on the court at the same time in the third quarter from the 12:00 to 7:41 mark. Watching that footage reveals the reaggravation happened at 9:03 in the third My video quality here is really poor on account of a terrible internet connection, but here's the play (extremely choppily) anyway:
Even with better quality, it would be tough to see what really happened here. No replays of the play were shown at the time.
This mystery may finally be solved Tuesday; whether it's via a good, bad, or awful resolution remains to be seen.
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Soon was a long time ago....
I guess the trade talks w/Indy should be picking up this week & based on what the doctors find, we might be lucky just to get Granger. I hope we can get someone good for Kaman BUT he seems to play worse in every game.
EG
He’s a fantastic player, but injuries have been a part of his career and the latest is just a continuation of a trend unfortunately.
It’s never been big stuff like broken legs or ACLs, but rather accumulation of bumps, bruises and sprains.
I think we’d be shooting ourselves in the foot if we offered him the max. There’s little historical evidence that building around a 6’3" player who isnt a PG is a way to win a championship, though there could always be a first.
Still, there are currently few good options for the Hornets and he’s the closest thing that we have to a Star, so… let’s hope we could sign him for somewhre north of $10 mill a year but less than the max. He’s got fantastic talenet without a doubt, but there are some questions which can’t be ignored.
Did I spy a Seinfeld reference?
His injury history does concern me. But then so did CP’s.
The video
doesn’t really look like anything happened. It didn’t even slow him up from getting back on defense. Really hope this is nothing serious. Maybe Monty’s way of saying that he thinks Gordon should be playing now? I have no clue.
Reading between the lines, here is what Monty is really saying
I know some things. I’d love to tell you guys as much as I do know but I’ve got to hold onto it for another day or two
I’d love to tell you that we have a contract extension in place, but I can’t comment on negotiations. I think we’ll have a deal done soon.
and get some more information from the doctors. They’re still running tests on him
They’re just testing out his knee. I’d list him as day-to-day
but we’ll know more Monday or Tuesday for sure.
When we’re announcing his extension
Needless to say, I’m a bit optimistic. I was planning on getting an Eric Gordon jersey at my next Hornets game (which I hope he plays in)
Peyton, I can eat Oreos faster than you!!!!
Really hope you're right
I’m buying at least one Gordon jersey if he signs the extension. Maybe two.
I'm totally in agreement with this
There are two doors:
1) Uh oh, doctors missed something (yet again) and now are figuring best course of action for the much more disconcerting issue.
2) Gordon and Hornets have agreed in principle to long term deal but the obligatory stuff needs to be taken care of such as extra tests on previous troubling body parts.
At first, I was very much thinking 1 but now, after a good night’s sleep, logic has prevailed and is siding with door #2. First, it was noted Monty was in good spirits when he made this announcement. Second, his choice of words would be odd (I’d love to tell you…) if it is something ominous. Unless he’s secretly a masochist, I think we should assume it’s good news.
Gordon for Granger...
Straight up doesn’t work with the salary cap. The Hornets are currently over the cap (with a team salary north of $65M) and would be trading Gordon ($3.8M) for Granger ($12M). The only way it works is adding in Kaman ($14M), Okafor ($12.5M) or Landry ($9M). Then Demps would be a fool not to ask for something else in return. Since the Pacers are under the cap (total team salary around $50M) they can take on additional salary.
Granger Sucks
No thank you.
"You play to win the game."
by MrWayneKeller on Jan 22, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
Just 2 things....
1) That Gordon pic over Peter’s when he hurt his knee is bananas!
2) Horrible how right before the 1st quarter of the season, we’re discussing and hoping about the makeup of next year’s team.
I guess this is the topic of discussion for teams in the gutter. If we keep Gordon, we must remember that he played 2 games for us and we won one and lost one. We lost 2 All Stars this offseason & Our trek to becoming contenders for a title is based on more than just Gordon and even with a top flight draft pick next year won’t get us there which is why (assuming Gordon will sign) the trade we get for Kaman will tell us where going. We’re at the bottom so a pick/trade that will make us slightly better will be an improvement but I don’t think Demps work that way so I can sleep good at night. We need that fire player but with Kaman digging a deeper hole in his stats night after night, playing like the ball is dipped in rhino dung, the Hornets just may be avg to decent for a while.
Whether we trade Kaman or not, I don't think it matters that much.
If this team is going somewhere, it better focus on the big things. If EJ is alright, I say sign him long-term. Draft wise, I go with Rohan in Anthony Davis, and I also like Drummond, although he’s really raw. Only those two. Other bigs IMO don’t play defense as good as those two.
by RockyMountain on Jan 22, 2012 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
I'm hearing
some not-so-good things. We should probably learn more today/tonight. Anthony Davis might be a real possibility, folks.
Yeah
That’s what I’ve seen floating around here too. Now the Hornets are in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. If you offer him the huge contract and this knee injury is degenerative, it’s going to be a handcuff on the organization for years. If they let him go because of the injury and he goes somewhere else and tears it up, things are just going to get worse for the team public relations wise. They almost HAVE to resign him to big money and have to do so on only two games this season due to a knee injury. Not a real good position for the Hornets to be in. I just want to know when this injury really originated.
In more positive news, Xavier Henry is supposed to be making his debut tonight.
"You play to win the game."
by MrWayneKeller on Jan 23, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Obviously not a doctor
but I don’t think a fractured knee cap would typically be debilitating. If I’m not mistaken, that’s the injury Blake Griffin sustained in his first rookie year. He looks no worse for the wear.
Yeah
That’s why I said if. We still don’t have an official diagnosis but we side on the same line.
"You play to win the game."
by MrWayneKeller on Jan 23, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
I guess no one is talking about Jones out of Baylor anymore....
Since Anthony Davis is leading the nation in blocked shots and avg double-double, I guess he does seem like the best prospect. his only downside is being a freshman at his size/ position, he’ll prob get pushed around in the paint.
I get scared
when the scouts start mentioning a lack of a motor or aversion to contact, both of which pop up frequently when researching Jones.

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