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Hornets Updates, 2/6

Hornets announce Carl Landry will be out 3-4 weeks...Chris Kaman reacts to rejoining Hornets...Jarrett Jack has some Super Bowl thoughts...

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Hornets announce Carl Landry will be out 3-4 weeks

From Tom Ziller/SBNation:

Carl Landry, playing for the New Orleans Hornets on a one-year contract, will be out 3-4 weeks with an MCL sprain, the team announced Sunday. (ESPN's Marc Stein had it first.) Landry has been playing his familiar sixth man role for New Orleans, which is a legit challenger for worst team in the league.

Landry would have become a popular name on the trade market, but this injury will keep him out until 1-2 weeks before the March 15 trade deadline. It will also likely open up minutes for Chris Kaman, who the Hornets had benched for a week to pursue trade possibilities.



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Chris Kaman Reacts to Rejoining Hornets

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Jarrett Jack Has Some Super Bowl Thoughts

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I’d love to see him back tonight if he can go.

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by MrWayneKeller on Feb 6, 2012 8:33 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Also

Although I’m not a big Kaman supporter, his attitude has been great through this entire process.

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by MrWayneKeller on Feb 6, 2012 8:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I totally agree..

but it shows the sad state of professional sports that we praise a guy making $13 mill a year for having a great attitude…If I was making that kind of money, I would pay for plastic surgery to put a Joker-like perpetual smile on my space. There is never a bad day at the office when your financial security for life is assured before you are 30.

Okay, off the soapbox

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by BenDerDonDat on Feb 6, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Joker-like perpetual smile

Haha, nice. I’ll have one of these if we land Anthony Davis in the upcoming draft.

by RedHopeful on Feb 6, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

This would be awesome
With Jason Smith likely out with concussion and @Carl Landry out, #Hornets could start Gustavo Ayon at PF vs #Kings tonight

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by RedHopeful on Feb 6, 2012 10:25 AM CST reply actions  

Naw.

Lance Thomas will probably get the start.

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by OnPointLikeCP3 on Feb 6, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

BAH!

I wanted to but decided against going here.

by RedHopeful on Feb 6, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Doubt It

However I do remember when Pavlovic got the start over Pondexter once last year and it really upset me. Hope we don’t have a repeat.

Then again, I could still imagine Kaman getting the start.

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by MrWayneKeller on Feb 6, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Tasteless and crass

…really, we are making concussion jokes? And Maxiell gets credit for awkwardly falling on Landry? Apparently there is a humor void over the City of Detroit…then again, I think we already knew that.

"I've seen George Foreman shadow box, and the shadow won." Muhammad Ali

by BenDerDonDat on Feb 6, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

BenDerDonDat,

Not sure how you’re misinterpreting it, but no concussion jokes were made. I was simply highlighting Jerebko acting like a Bad Boy after Smith ran into his shoulder (and there’s a running joke on DBB that he’s Drago from Rocky). As for Maxiell getting “credit”, I’m not sure what you mean there — he fell on Landry, didn’t he? I’m certainly not praising him for hurting anyone.

My implicit mention of karma at the end, as facetious as it may be, certainly shouldn’t be construed as me making fun of injuries — I hope Smith’s head is okay and he’s truly only day-to-day, and it sucks Landry was seriously hurt.

And …

Apparently there is a humor void over the City of Detroit…then again, I think we already knew that.

Says the guy who just made the 3 millionth unoriginal, thinly veiled jab at the “City of Detroit”

by Packey on Feb 6, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Weak
Says the guy who just made the 3 millionth unoriginal, thinly veiled jab at the "City of Detroit"

No sense in taking anything personal when you were making jokes about people’s injuries in the first place.

It was a sad attempt at humor that failed and should be left at that. Don’t try to justify what you did and BenDer shouldn’t be taking jabs at the city of Detroit either. Both are wrong, leave it at that.

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by MrWayneKeller on Feb 6, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

you were making jokes about people’s injuries in the first place.

Again, not true.

It was a sad attempt at humor that failed and should be left at that. Don’t try to justify what you did

I won’t try to justify its humor – that’s up to individual readers and you’re reasonably sore about Smith and Landry getting hurt in a loss to the Pistons, so I certainly don’t expect you guys to find it funny. But I will clear up that it was in no way a post to make fun of injuries — again, it was highlighting Jerebko’s reaction more than anything else. I would’ve posted it whether Smith was injured or not – him being injured was unfortunate.

by Packey on Feb 6, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Your Comment At The End

On Landry’s injury was just unnecessary. You try to backtrack on it and say it was facetious but it was making light of the injuries. Your intent is one thing and you can say it’s up to the discretion of the readers but you didn’t leave it open to much interpretation other than “Landry injuring his knee is payback for Summers breaking Knight’s nose.” Both were accidents. Only difference is, we weren’t over here celebrating a bit of toughness from Summers for accidentally breaking an opposing player’s nose…?

Again, stop trying to justify it. You were wrong, BenDer was wrong. That’s that.

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by MrWayneKeller on Feb 6, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I was talking about the humor of the post as a whole being up to the individual reader, not that one line at the end.

Even if I really believed Smith and Landry’s injuries happened because Summers inadvertently broke Knight’s nose (I don’t), it doesn’t mean I was celebrating it. Admittedly, the last line was worthless, but probably taken a little too seriously by you guys, and understandably so considering the circumstances. My apologies.

by Packey on Feb 6, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

My comments on Detroit were...

unworthy. My bad. Good city, good people, poor decision by me.

When I read the caption “..he must be broken” I assumed it was joke-y commentary of Smith being put out of the game. And I will say that I thought the refs let Detroit come over the back about 15 times during the game, but to say I was upset with the loss…not true…Long since given up on this season except for the interest in seeing whether a few of our younger players develop.

Anyway, peace to all.

"I've seen George Foreman shadow box, and the shadow won." Muhammad Ali

by BenDerDonDat on Feb 6, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Heck, I live in Michigan,

and you can feel free to jab Detrioit all you want when I’m around. Ever been there? I swear, it’s like a 3rd world country up in there. (not really, okay, Packey)

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by OnPointLikeCP3 on Feb 6, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

- All I was trying to point out was the double-standard in your comment. You called my post (me) tasteless, crass, and devoid of humor, but then you finished by making a tired blanket statement about Detroit, no better really than what I was being accused of.

- Yeah, the “he must be broken” was a play off the Drago “I must break you” quote. Silly and harmless.

- But no hard feelings here. I hope I’ve cleared up that I didn’t have any ill-intentions with the post, as unclear as I might’ve made that seem, and I do want both players to have a speedy recovery.

All the best to you guys (except for more ping pong balls; I wish you fewer of those).

by Packey on Feb 6, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

My thoughts

I don’t think that your post was in bad taste. From that perspective, I have no major problem with it.

On the other hand, glorifying a move by Jerebko that left one of our players injured does certainly come across as a kind of trash talking to fans of the Hornets, and you are certainly fair game on our board for that, particularly since concussions are potentially more serious than people used to understand.

Regarding the incident, I thought that Jerebko should have been thrown out of the game for that or at least assessed a flagrant foul or technical. Why would a player stare down another player who is clearly injured and writhing on the floor?

It’s unclear, but if the contact was intentional, he should have been clearly thrown out. If the contact was unintentional (and that’s debatable considering the “follow through” to which you clearly refer to in our own comments), he should have been assessed a technical foul at the very least. Without checking the rules, I’m almost certain that staring down or otherwise trying to intimidate a player you’ve just floored intetionally or otherwise falls well within the scope of unsportsmanlike conduct.

So it was a bad non-call which your team got away with.

by MZURK on Feb 7, 2012 5:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Mr. Wayne that you can agree

both teams are desperate for anything that isn’t fundamentally negative. We’re a heartless, pessimistic, extremely judgmental bunch over at DBB after the way Joe Dumars has “managed” this team’s roster.

I don’t think Packey was trying to be tasteless in his post nor was he trying to make light of Smith’s or Landry’s injuries. He was however making light of Jonas’s reaction to Smith hitting him, which at the time (prior to finding out Smith was concussed) was somewhat humorous to Pistons fans given the long-running joke of Jonas Jerebko being Ivan Drago from Rocky.

With all that said, I’m not expecting you to see it our way, I just hope you recognize we’re not trying to be tasteless towards Hornets fans or players, just trying to somehow make it through this season in one piece mentally.

I hope y’all can get through it just like us – finding humor whenever possible and appreciating the fact that this season is shorter than others so it won’t be nearly as painful for as long.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

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by The Boourns on Feb 6, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

fair enough

and understood…

It seems the Pistons had a pretty good run though, for a few years…

by MZURK on Feb 7, 2012 5:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunate

SBNation generally has a great list of writers from what I can tell but this isn’t an example of it. That’s all I’ll say against it.

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by MrWayneKeller on Feb 6, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I expected much more from another SB contributor.

I think a bit of relaxation is in order. Chill pills and such. Packey intended no offense to Jason Smiff, Starl Landry or the Hornets in general. He wasn’t celebrating their injuries. It didn’t matter who the player was or what jersey they were wearing, that Jonas Jerebko push-off was awesome.

Over at DetroitBadBoys, we give our players greater personalities than they actually have. Greg Monroe is The Monroad Warrior at away games, Monrobocop in Detroit. Jerebko is Ivan Drago, and also the handsomest player to ever play the game. When he does something Drago- or Laimbeer-ish, we celebrate. During the game thread that night, I asked:

“What’s the over/under on how many of us will watch that Jonas highlight on repeat with our pants down? I’m thinking 20.”

The last thing any of us at DBB want is for any player other than Kevin Garnett to get injured. The only ill will I would wish upon Jason Smith is that someone would pin him down and shave that goofy tuft of hair off his forehead. And Carl Landry, man that sucks… I’ve always liked him, and I regret that a lottery-bound team (just like Detroit) should lose a player like that. Is it kind of funny that Jason Maxiell’s fat ass took him out of the game? Yes. We also laughed when our own Charlie Villanueva broke his nose on Ben Wallace’s ass. True story. But none of us, especially Packey, would celebrate any of these injuries and that wasn’t Packey’s intent.

We will celebrate when Jonas Jerebko does something bad ass. That push off on Smith was bad-ass. And it was also a foul.

(also in olive-branchy notes— the Hornet’s commentators are some of the most fair and balanced folks I’ve heard, it was a welcome surprise when most of the league’s commentators are asshats to the opposition)

by Mike Payne on Feb 6, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah no ill will

Since I’m such an avid Monroe fan, I’ve read (and occasional posted) plenty of posts, comments and stuff on your site for the last several years. I’m also intrigued by your other young guys like JJ, Knight and Daye. Speaking of which, will Austin ever put it together and rightfully put Tayshaun on the bench where he can best lead?

That said, just felt dedicating a whole post in the manner that packey did was inappropriate. From a Hornets perspective, the humor of the post isn’t lost on most of us but we give more credence to the fact it was at the expense of several of our guys.

by RedHopeful on Feb 6, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Related news...

Kevin Love suspended for two games after “stomping” on Luis Scola. My opinion on it was it just looked awkward and hardly malicious in any manner. Either way, losses by the Timberwolves are good for the Hornets.

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by usnfish on Feb 6, 2012 1:29 PM CST reply actions  

My Thoughts

It looked intentional but, as you said, it’s certainly open to interpretation. What did him in, in my opinion, was his comment after the game about it being an accident like when Scola accidentally hit him in the cojones trying to get the ball to go out of bounds on Love. He said something along the lines of “it just happened to be his face just like it happened to be my groin last time.”

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by MrWayneKeller on Feb 6, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Reputation

I wonder how much the player’s reputation plays into the punishment a player receives. I wouldn’t say that Kevin Love is a dirty player, but some feel that he isn’t exactly the cleanest player either.

by njennings on Feb 6, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Leading the NBA in rebounding...

..hardly comes from playing “clean”. There is a reason coaches and commentators refer to rebounding and boxing out as the “dirty work”.

by usnfish on Feb 6, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Where is George Carlin when you need him?

Obviously, I’m a big Hornets fan, season ticket holder, and occasional blogger. But I also believe in free speech. Who cares if the Pistons bloggers were making light of the Smith situation? Do we really believe that they are so cruel and stupid as to really take delight in what could be a quasi-permanent injury? Same with Landry. I don’t think so.

Some people here might be offended by their post, and that’s their right. I also say the Pistons people can say whatever the hell they want in their blog. If Smith comes back and rejects the ball into someone’s face and that dude gets hurt, we will all go nuts. So, I think some people here are just too sensitive. And for the Pistons dudes to come here and explain themselves should settle it. They were just playing around. They are sorry some people took it the wrong way.

But that’s just my opinion. Feel free to disagree. That’s your right.

by m-W on Feb 6, 2012 4:36 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Sigh

No need to turn this into a 1st amendement argument. My only problem was that it doesn’t really fit SB nation. Most of the blogs on here (and I’ve been to practically all of them) hold themselves to a certain standard and I’ve come to expect it. If I’m looking for fluff I can always visit the forums at realgm or inside hoops.

by RedHopeful on Feb 6, 2012 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m with RedHopeful here. This isn’t a first amendment issue. Nobody even took true offense to it. I did nothing but call it tasteless. I didn’t attack him at all. Nobody went and trolled on his website. We said we disliked it here and that was it.

By turning this into a constitutional issue, you’re making a bigger deal out of it than anybody else did, ironically.

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by MrWayneKeller on Feb 6, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I more or less agree

Having said that, I think we have a right to take offense. Not in the sense that we should be “offended” or take it personally, but in the sense that the original post on the Detroit site was basically at the expense of one of our guys.

I’ll certainly be rooting for Smith to step on Jerebko’s face next time there is a rematch, which I think won’t be until next season unfortunately.

by MZURK on Feb 7, 2012 5:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I’ll certainly be rooting for Smith to step on Jerebko’s face next time there is a rematch, which I think won’t be until next season unfortunately.

Seriously? I think face stomping is much more heinous than staring at somebody. But you also think that it is unfortunate that it isn’t going to happen this season? Yeah, we probably weren’t in the greatest of taste with our postings but pot, meet kettle.

by madpoopz on Feb 7, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

actually

A concussion is much more serious. No, it’s not just staring that caused Smith to miss games. Concussions result from damage to the brain. It may be minor and temporary damage, but concussions add up and the more you have in your life, the greater the chance of an serious problemn arising later.

As for the face stomping, I was referring of course to the recent face stomping of Scola, which was humiliating, but not injurious.

by MZURK on Feb 7, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

except that the concussion was hardly intentional.

Smith was pushed into Jerebko after Monroe and Smith got tangled up on the floor.

You are right about concussions but you’re looking for something much more intentional than what Jerebko gave Smith.

by madpoopz on Feb 7, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

follow through?

It’s hard to argue that it’s not intentional when your player does “follow through” on the hit and then stares down the injured player.

by MZURK on Feb 7, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

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